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Old 05-21-2019, 06:27 AM
 
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So you're good with people being "investigated" for whatever reason is deemed necessary... including purely political reasons?

Because if there's no probable cause, what's the purpose and motivation behind the investigation in the first place?

There's a difference between "oversight" and harassment..

And that difference is probable cause.
It’s all explained, in detail, in the decision to which I linked on the first page. If you can’t be bothered to read it in an attempt to educate yourself, I can’t be bothered to try and spoon-feed it to you.
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Old 05-21-2019, 06:29 AM
 
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An Obama appointee hack. Ignore the “judge.” We are witnessing the first coup attempt of a president since the civil war.
So you want people to disregard the judiciary (unconstitutional) because you think the exercise of Congressional oversight and legislative powers (expressly authorized by the Constitution) is a “coup attempt”? That is some Herculean pretzel logic there.
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Old 05-21-2019, 07:19 AM
 
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An Obama appointee hack. Ignore the “judge.” We are witnessing the first coup attempt of a president since the civil war.

either that or the judge ( no quotation marks needed ) is actually making the correct ruling.
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Old 05-21-2019, 07:23 AM
 
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Trump already has stated its because he's a democrat.
Do you really think his political ideaology doesn't play a big role in this decision?
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Old 05-21-2019, 07:25 AM
 
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Do you really think his political ideaology doesn't play a big role in this decision?
If he has integrity, no. I hope judges put aside their own prejudices to make the right decisions. Besides, his ruling isn't based on how he feels about something, it's about upholding the law.
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Old 05-21-2019, 07:26 AM
 
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yep.

"It is simply not fathomable that a Constitution that grants Congress the power to remove a President for reasons including criminal behavior would deny Congress the power to investigate him for unlawful conduct — past or present — even without formally opening an impeachment inquiry,"


- Judge Mehta
I like it. We should investigate EVERY public servant including judges.

We need to have an army of investigators to comb through all their records leaving nothing unturned.
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Old 05-21-2019, 07:28 AM
 
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Do you really think his political ideaology doesn't play a big role in this decision?
In this decision? No, I don't. Pretty much every legal scholar agreed from the outset that Trump's legal argument lacked merit and that he would ultimately lose, but that his strategy was to try to run out the clock in hopes that the Republicans take back the House before the records were turned over. It shouldn't surprise anyone that summary judgment was granted in favor of the Oversight Committee.
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Old 05-21-2019, 07:32 AM
 
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Do you really think his political ideaology doesn't play a big role in this decision?
We need to look at his ruling, I don’t recall Obama or Bush pointing out ethnic background or party affiliation every time a judge ruled against them. It’s one thing for us to have an opinion but Trumps comments are an attempt to undermine the courts.
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Old 05-21-2019, 07:33 AM
 
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I like it. We should investigate EVERY public servant including judges.

We need to have an army of investigators to comb through all their records leaving nothing unturned.
And who will investigate the investigators
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Old 05-21-2019, 07:35 AM
 
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We need to look at his ruling, I don’t recall Obama or Bush pointing out ethnic background or party affiliation every time a judge ruled against them. It’s one thing for us to have an opinion but Trumps comments are an attempt to undermine the courts.
That's because Trump has no ability to plan beyond the short term. Anyone who is familiar with his businesses in New York could have told you that long ago. Short term gain (cast doubt of the legitimacy of anything that is not in Trump's favor) at the expense of long term pain (undermine our belief in the legitimacy of the judiciary). But, just as Trump said about the absence of any concern about blowing up the deficit with his tax cuts, "[he] won't be here" to see the aftermath of his destructive behavior, so he doesn't care.
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