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Old 05-21-2019, 08:23 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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lol..........it means that we're screwed. The cultural Marxists and Frankfort School have won. They wisely knew back in the 1930s and 40s that the only way to take down America was to rot it from within.

And they have done so.
Actually, I think they are always be the close to the same percentage of gullible people that will claim to be favorable to socialism. Once they grow and mature, and learn anout the world, they discard their silly notions about socialism, and then a new crop of wide-eyed young people think socialism is about equality and freedom.

I saw this love for socialism in the 1980s, when people were convinced that the Soviets were cool, and they loved Mikhail Gorbachev and his political views and despised constitutionalism promoted by Reagan.

Candidates for the Democratic Party primary election, like Bernie Sanders were honeymooning in the USSR, and De Blasio honeymooned in Cuba. Castro's Cuba was not so bad, just look at their free health care for all. Now we have people believing that China isn't so bad.

The ignorant people think socialism equals equality, freedom and fairness, in all things. It's just crazy.

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Old 05-21-2019, 08:28 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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I feel like people on this thread aren't comprehending this...
Not if they are citing the police and fire department, or federal health regulations for food production, and calling it socialism
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Old 05-21-2019, 08:30 AM
 
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I feel like people on this thread aren't comprehending this...
because its not true. not all govt = socialism. simply not true.
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Old 05-21-2019, 08:31 AM
 
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I hope the people that voted in the poll understand what socialism means better than the posters here. but I doubt it.
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Old 05-21-2019, 08:32 AM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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I’m concerned that as more Americans embrace socialism that eventually we’ll be heading on a path of chaos, deprivation, poverty, suffering, and death!

https://news.gallup.com/poll/257639/...socialism.aspx
Oh noes! Or maybe we'll end up more like Denmark.
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Old 05-21-2019, 08:32 AM
 
Location: On the Great South Bay
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I’m concerned that as more Americans embrace socialism that eventually we’ll be heading on a path of chaos, deprivation, poverty, suffering, and death!

https://news.gallup.com/poll/257639/...socialism.aspx
Living in a country where the corporate CEO makes 300 times more than the average employee yet the corporation keeps trying to find ways to save money by cutting it from the low paid employees, will tend do that people after a while.

Not to mention a Darwinistic 19th century health care system where some people are perfectly fine if some of their fellow citizens cannot afford their medical bills or have their prescriptions filled just as long as we do not have "socialism" in America.
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Old 05-21-2019, 08:39 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Living in a country where the corporate CEO makes 300 times more than the average employee yet the corporation keeps trying to find ways to save money by cutting it from the low paid employees, will tend do that people after a while.

Not to mention a Darwinistic 19th century health care system where some people are perfectly fine if some of their fellow citizens cannot afford their medical bills or have their prescriptions filled just as long as we do not have "socialism" in America.
It's all good, mommy and daddy government will step in and make it all better.

I hear what you're saying about the excesses of capitalism but there's better ways to fight it, rather than turning the country into Cuba.
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Old 05-21-2019, 08:42 AM
 
Location: Florida
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because its not true. not all govt = socialism. simply not true.
Only the government you don't like.

Medicare isn't socialism.
Medicaid is socialism.
Social security isn't socialism.
Food stamps are socialism.
There seems to be a difference of opinion on whether public education is socialism. My guess is that the right-wingers who sent their kids to public school feel it's not, while those who ponied up for private school feel it is.

In essence, we all use government programs. We all "pay into them." You might not like certain programs but that doesn't make them any more socialistic than the programs you DO like (and take full advantage of).
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Old 05-21-2019, 08:48 AM
 
Location: NC
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OP, you planning on getting Medicare? Collecting Social Security?
Driving on an interestate highway, using an airport, using the internet, having the fire department put out your flames, the police protect you, using electricity or gas, taking a #2 and actually flushing it.


OP has raised the bar again for the level of mis-information that can be shared.
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Old 05-21-2019, 08:58 AM
 
Location: USA
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It simply means that if this continues, America's run at the top will be ending soon. We will become 2nd rate like Canada and Europe.
By most metrics, Canada and Europe are doing better than the US. Look at the statistics on crime, incarceration rates, drug abuse, health, obesity, working hours, number of vacation days, student loan debt, percent of GDP spent on healthcare, etc.
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