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Old 07-21-2019, 03:44 PM
 
Location: Nowhere
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If the government told you that you had to stop dumping arsenic in the ground...because it's poison

...and at the same time told you your neighbors get to dump more arsenic in the ground because they have a bigger family and make less money than you do

You would know it's a scam.........

Increasing CO2 levels can not be dangerous at all....if it was.....no country would be allowed to increase their CO2 emissions

...the only thing that global warming has increased..is the amount of money..funneled through the UN...going to those undeveloped countries...and that includes China
Exactly this. It's a brutal scam that the communists of the West are more than happy to promote.

 
Old 07-21-2019, 03:58 PM
 
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Ironic isn't it that a US citizen dumps almost ten times as much arsenic (CO2) as an Indian citizen does, and two and a third more than a citizen of China.
..I see, so you're admitting it's about money..and until India/China etc emits as much CO2 per person as we have....they get to increase their emissions

...so increasing the level of CO2 in the air...is not dangerous at all

India has increased their CO2 emissions more than any other country besides China > https://4k4oijnpiu3l4c3h-zippykid.ne...o2-720x513.png

...and no other country has lowered their CO2 emissions more than the US...

No one would count any real pollutant that way..

Irony is when you also have to pay developing countries money....through the UN....for them to increase the amount of arsenic/CO2 they dump in the ground.

It's the biggest Ponzi scheme ever invented.....
 
Old 07-21-2019, 04:00 PM
 
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Okay then....the same people that see it like you should be the same ones that are screaming "WE NEED TO CLOSE THE BORDER AND DEPORT EVERY ILLEGAL" since every single one of them is going to have a far more negative effect on the "climate" being in America than they would if they were not in America.

But they're not. You know why? Because they're full of s--- and they know they are.
I'm saying we've crossed the Rubicon on fixing the climate crisis, and there is no action we take that will mitigate it.
 
Old 07-21-2019, 04:42 PM
 
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Mom, you and I agree 100% on that....

Even the whackiest liberals agree developing countries should be allowed to develop...
...and that means they are going to increase their emissions

If the US emissions are 10 times what India is per person....and over 2 times more than China per person
...and the metric is "per capita"...per person

What is that going to raise CO2 levels to when they catch up?.....it's ~400ppm now....what will it be then? 800ppm? 1000ppm+?
...10 times and 2 times takes it way over 2000ppm

..obviously the powers that be...do not see that as a problem

If the USA disappeared tomorrow...zero emissions....we would not drop it enough to matter
 
Old 07-21-2019, 04:49 PM
 
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Mom, you and I agree 100% on that....

Even the whackiest liberals agree developing countries should be allowed to develop...
...and that means they are going to increase their emissions

If the US emissions are 10 times what India is per person....and over 2 times more than China per person
...and the metric is "per capita"...per person

What is that going to raise CO2 levels to when they catch up?.....it's ~400ppm now....what will it be then? 800ppm? 1000ppm+?
...10 times and 2 times takes it way over 2000ppm

..obviously the powers that be...do not see that as a problem

If the USA disappeared tomorrow...zero emissions....we would not drop it enough to matter
Yes.

Unless somebody figures out how to make nuclear fusion viable and cheaper than coal, we are in for a massive amount of global warming. The tropics and subtropics will gradually become uninhabitable, and all of the people who live there will be migrating to a neighborhood near you.

If anyone thinks that “Trumpism” is bad now, wait until all of Latin America is streaming north across the border.
 
Old 07-21-2019, 04:53 PM
 
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the UN/IPCC says the tropics and subtropics will see the least effect from global warming...
...it will mostly be in the higher latitudes

Which will extend the growing season for crops...and even allowed some crops to be planted and harvested twice a year
 
Old 07-21-2019, 05:02 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Originally Posted by Corrie22 View Post
..I see, so you're admitting it's about money..and until India/China etc emits as much CO2 per person as we have....they get to increase their emissions

...so increasing the level of CO2 in the air...is not dangerous at all

India has increased their CO2 emissions more than any other country besides China > https://4k4oijnpiu3l4c3h-zippykid.ne...o2-720x513.png

...and no other country has lowered their CO2 emissions more than the US...

No one would count any real pollutant that way..

Irony is when you also have to pay developing countries money....through the UN....for them to increase the amount of arsenic/CO2 they dump in the ground.

It's the biggest Ponzi scheme ever invented.....
They are not receiving funding to increase their emissions, but to support mitigation and adaptation actions that will address climate change.
 
Old 07-21-2019, 05:07 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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the UN/IPCC says the tropics and subtropics will see the least effect from global warming...
...it will mostly be in the higher latitudes

Which will extend the growing season for crops...and even allowed some crops to be planted and harvested twice a year
Untrue Africa will be the most vulnerable continent.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/e...ality-growing/
 
Old 07-21-2019, 05:23 PM
 
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They are not receiving funding to increase their emissions, but to support mitigation and adaptation actions that will address climate change.
If you give someone money for one thing....that's less of their money they have to spend
..and the money they are not spending on that...they are spending to increase their infrastructure/energy
China, India, etc are building coal plants for energy....with the money they don't have to spend..and that increases their emissions

That's exactly the same as saying the UN is giving them money to increase their emissions...
...because that's the end effect of it

"Untrue Africa will be the most vulnerable continent."

Temperature.....the UN/IPCC says the tropics and subtropics will have the least effect in temperature change
...the most temperature change will be in the high latitudes


"per capita" means CO2 levels are going to increase

The UN/IPCC was formed...to fight CO2 emissions and global warming....in 1988

what happened after the IPCC was formed in 1988 > https://3c1703fe8d.site.internapcdn....rbonemissi.jpg

India is consuming 3 times more coal since the IPCC was formed > http://ift.tt/28ZO6zb

China is consuming 6 times more coal since the IPCC was formed > http://www.carbonbrief.org/media/257...-at-103518.png

Last edited by Corrie22; 07-21-2019 at 05:56 PM..
 
Old 07-21-2019, 06:42 PM
 
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Exactly how is this an obtuse question?
If one seriously believes that within 10 or 20 years that we are heading for an inevitable catastrophe, why wouldn't they do everything they can to prepare for that as best they can?

Why is it "silly"?
I grew up during the cold war where people prepared for the prospect of nuclear war by building bunkers and stockpiling food.


What seems silly to me is the notion that people believe the world or at least society is in imminent, unavoidable danger, they have access to money that will soon become worthless, that can buy things such as food, medical supplies, guns, water, shelter but choose not to.

It begs the question : do they really believe this?
Not too many believe life will be over and the world will end in ten years. But scientists say waiting ten years will be too late to get the earth back on track to sustain life as we know it.
Just this July’s heat has been eye opening.
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