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Old 09-17-2019, 05:09 AM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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Senate.
Senate is run by GOP.
Will go nowhere.
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Old 09-17-2019, 05:12 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Senate.
Senate is run by GOP.
Will go nowhere.
Trump would veto it anyway. All the politicians in the House and Senate of both parties know this. This Bill is to purposely virtue signal to the Democrat base that they are "doing something".
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Old 09-17-2019, 05:18 AM
 
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suggest you brush up on your history

the fascio-socialist liberals will never tell you these few other pieces of history
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the 2nd amendment is very specific.........the RIGHT of the PEOPLE shall not be INFRINGED



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meanwhile leftists have for a century been looking to take away the guns....why...power over the people



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interesting how the liberals, fascists, nazi's, communists are the ones who want gun control....hmm




the anti-gun people (and yes many are liberals) never can figure out that they are hurting the law abiding citizens, because crooks/criminals/scum dont care about the laws or restrictions on getting a gun


Communist Rules for Revolution:

1. Corrupt the young; get them away from religion. Get them interested in sex. Make them superficial; destroy their ruggedness.
2. By specious argument cause the breakdown of old moral virtues; honesty, sobriety, continence, faith in the pledged word, ruggedness.
3. Encourage civil disorders and foster a lenient and soft attitude on the part of government toward such disorders.
4. Divide the people into hostile groups by constantly harping on controversial matters of no importance.
5. Get people's minds off their government by focusing their attention on athletics, sexy books, plays, and other trivialities.
6. Get control of all means of publicity.
7. Destroy the people's faith in their natural leaders by holding the latter up to contempt, ridicule and obloquy (disgrace).
8. Cause the registration of all firearms on some pretext, with a view to confiscation and leaving the population helpless.





yep liberals (fascists) and their goal to disarm the people


and they cant even figure out what the 2nd amendment means.. or how abolishing it would also abolish the 1st, 4th, and 5th amendments too

Great post. The anti gun crowd will just scoff at it though, they will just follow along with the rhetoric like sheep.
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Old 09-17-2019, 06:05 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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It’s unconstitutional. Period.


No it's not. Period. Unless the SCOTUS has reversed their decision on it?


I think what you meant to say is that you feel it is unconstitutional.
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Old 09-17-2019, 06:33 AM
 
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The interesting thing with all these threads is they are all a debate on people wanting to restrict/ban/buy back firearms that are legally owned by people that have not broken a single law. All because they've been told it will lower violence committed with firearms, with no facts to back that up. Yet there have been facts presented that show the opposite and those are ignored as well as all the violence that is committed by criminals in cities across the country.

Want to take a chunk out of firearms violence ? Head to your nearest high violence neighborhood and start spewing your anti gun agenda there.
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Old 09-17-2019, 06:42 AM
 
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No it's not. Period. Unless the SCOTUS has reversed their decision on it?


I think what you meant to say is that you feel it is unconstitutional.
Nope. You don’t license a right. It is unconstitutional.
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Old 09-17-2019, 07:08 AM
 
Location: MS
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I didn't say I was afraid. I think some of these gun nuts are a bit over the top though. I'm not the one who is scrambling to collect guns like they're marbles and talking big about protecting myself from the gubmint and everybody else. Now THAT sounds like fear. I don't see the need to get all het up about it.
You get defensive when we say you are afraid but you are doing the exact same thing to us.


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And yet here we are. Up to our eyeballs in guns. I honestly don't know how some people sleep at night, with so much fear of being overtaken. Must be hard to live like that.

Is your use of the word "gubmint" a backhanded insult on the education of gun owners? Do you stereotype everyone or just people you don't agree with?


While I don't think this bill will ever get out of committee, stranger things have happened. How much manpower will this require to implement? How much money? The current estimated cost of healthcare.gov is over $1B and that is a simple site. This will be 10 times as complex to design and tracking the owners/serial numbers of 500M guns will require a building full of people.


Since we all know how great the .gov is about accuracy, what happens when a dyslexic data entry person transposes a serial number and someone ends up in jail? It will happen. How many people are on a no-fly list for no explainable reason?
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Old 09-17-2019, 07:10 AM
 
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If Cory Booker helped write it, was it in crayon?
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Old 09-17-2019, 10:06 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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Nope. You don’t license a right. It is unconstitutional.


Uh, the posted you quoted whilst making your first "unconstitutional" claim was referencing the ACA, not any proposed new gun legislation...
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Old 09-18-2019, 08:59 PM
 
Location: Somers, MT
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and did you ever hear of the DIFFERENCE between a state and the federal government

if a state wants to implement laws, they can

the bill of rights, is about the protections/rights FROM the federal government and does NOT prevent a state from having its laws WITHIN ITS (the states) constitution ( all the states have their own constitution) 44 states have firearms protections (right to keep and bare arms) within their constitutions

for example
Pennsylvania's 1776 constitution declared: "That the people have a right to bear arms for the defence of themselves and the state..."
Vermont's constitutions of 1777 and 1786 similarly proclaimed: "That the people have a right to bear arms for the defence of themselves and the State..."

So you are saying it will "always" be allowed at the Federal level? If all fifty states enact a similar law isn't that the same effect as a federal law?
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