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Sponsored by Cory Booker and Blumenthal.....read it carefully...... Although it may sound harmless to some liberals, this one is one step away from tyranny.
[i]"The bill will make it “unlawful for any individual to purchase or receive a firearm unless the individual has a valid Federal firearms license.”
Let me get this straight.
Unless the citizen fills out the right papers and gets the right govt approvals, the government will forbid him to buy a gun?
And the decision will be made within the government, deciding whether or not to approve him buying the gun?
I could have sworn I read something in the Constitution saying the government couldn't make those decisions.
I'm a different person than who I think you were responding to, but in response to your comment, car owners don't have a federal licensing but commercial vehicle owners do because driving one of these vehicles could be much more catastrophic than a small car if it's involved in an accident with another driver(s). This demands higher scrutiny to make sure that the drivers are of sound mind (hence stricter DUI laws for them, for example), know what they're doing, and aren't creating a danger to the public:
So there already exists a rational basis and precedent for more stringent federal licensing for use of items that could pose a more imminent threat to the public is already there.
a CDL is NOT federally issued
My CDL is issued by New York State
what I am talking about a country drivers license, like most of Europe has
in Germany for example you get a German drivers license, not a Bavarian (region or state) drivers license
the guy I was responding to said
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Why nt make it so gun oweners have to be licensed? Car owners are.
I said nothing about his typing, as mine can be horrible too
but his suggestion (as we are in a thread about a senate bill (federal) was why not, we make drivers...…. my answer was about the difference between FEDERAL and STATE
The 2nd Amendment says “shall not be infringed,” not “shall be licensed at the whim of hoplophobes.”
Of course you made the second part up , but if we're going to quote the Bill of Rights, I'll give you another example quoted correctly.
The first amendment says "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances".
Even with such strong language prohibiting "abridging the freedom of speech" there's case law which limits free speech. An example would be laws prohibiting people being able to make threats and then attempt to claim the the first amendment gives them the right to do so.
Back to the second Amendment, case law going all the way up the Supreme Court has adjudicated the fact that the second amendment is not unlimited. In Heller v. District of Columbia, the Court stated:
"Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose. For example, concealed weapons prohibitions … possessions of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing condition and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms."
Saying that the second amendment is unlimited is not only an oversimplification, it is simply not correct.
I knew you’d defend Obama and the Democrats on the ACA. In your mind it’s perfectly acceptable for the left to demolish healthcare and force private citizens to do business with a third party.
Healthcare was demolished before the ACA came along. The ACA wasn't actually strong enough to fix what is wrong with the healthcare system. And millions of people who couldn't afford insurance now can, including me. Even the Republicans don't want to touch the ACA because too many of their constituents are one it. . But you never answered my question. Congress legally passed the ACA. However, Trump does everything he can to bypass Congress when it comes to getting funds for his pet projects. That's not how it works, but it doesn't matter to him. So tell me again who's the dictator?
I don't necessarily trust the government. But you can believe I really don't trust a bunch of yahoos running around wanting to be root'em toot 'em cowboys.
I seriously doubt you've seen any "cowboys" as you put it packing firearms. Fear
Nothing but fear
My advice is get out more, take some vacations and don't be afraid of other Americans.
I seriously doubt you've seen any "cowboys" as you put it packing firearms. Fear
Nothing but fear
My advice is get out more, take some vacations and don't be afraid of other Americans.
I didn't say I was afraid. I think some of these gun nuts are a bit over the top though. I'm not the one who is scrambling to collect guns like they're marbles and talking big about protecting myself from the gubmint and everybody else. Now THAT sounds like fear. I don't see the need to get all het up about it.
Healthcare was demolished before the ACA came along. The ACA wasn't actually strong enough to fix what is wrong with the healthcare system. And millions of people who couldn't afford insurance now can, including me. Even the Republicans don't want to touch the ACA because too many of their constituents are one it. . But you never answered my question. Congress legally passed the ACA. However, Trump does everything he can to bypass Congress when it comes to getting funds for his pet projects. That's not how it works, but it doesn't matter to him. So tell me again who's the dictator?
an apparently you, like most of the left doesn't get it....insurance is not care
EVERY American has access to health CARE...just open the yellow pages and pick a doctor....go to the doctor and receive the service
why dont liberals stop the lying...its not about access to CARE...its about who is going to pay YOUR bill
it's your body
it's your health
its the service YOU receive
its your bill...pay your own darn bill...dont EXPECT others to pay for you...NO-ONE should have to pay YOUR bill for you... have some pride man
and the problem is the government
the main problem we have here is the USA is OUR OWN GOVERNMENT RED TAPE
Of course you made the second part up , but if we're going to quote the Bill of Rights, I'll give you another example quoted correctly.
The first amendment says "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances".
Even with such strong language prohibiting "abridging the freedom of speech" there's case law which limits free speech.
Don't you love it when liberals try to take away your rights listed in the Constitution... by claiming laws made later somehow change what the Constitution plainly says?
How is passing a law through Congress dictatorial? Trump just bypasses Congress to get money he wants for his pet projects even though they hold the purse strings. So who's the dictator?
Don't you love it when liberals try to take away your rights listed in the Constitution... by claiming laws made later somehow change what the Constitution plainly says?
I'm cool laws against someone threatening another person's life, even if it does limit speech. I'm glad the liberal or conservative or whoever came up with this did because I wouldn't want to be part of a society where people can go around making death threats and it's perfectly legal and okay for them to do so.
And as far as the quote about the second amendment not being "unlimited", that was delivered by US Supreme Court Antonin Scalia. I've never heard that he's a liberal- that's a first!
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, but if we're going to quote the Bill of Rights, I'll give you another example quoted correctly. 
