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Old 10-23-2019, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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Yep!

All roads lead tRump back to Putin.

It'll be fun to learn exactly what it is that Putin has on him.

Still hanging on to that fantasy are ya'. Good for you. Keep hope alive.
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Old 10-23-2019, 01:47 PM
 
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
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Prove it with a video or a transcript. Leaks from Schiff, the RESIST Democrats, and the DNC propaganda outlets do NOT count.
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Old 10-23-2019, 01:49 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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I'm no fan of Bush Jr., but I would not label him a traitor anymore than I'd label Obama, Clinton, Bush Sr., or Reagan one. I didn't agree with his politics, and like any politician (either side) he did some dirty things. I hate it, but that comes with the office.

Trump is in a league by himself. He is likely so filthy dirty that we've never seen the likes of him before, and I hope we never will again. If he's not dirty, it just shows he is THAT stupid and gullible (just like I said above about his base), and unqualified for the office. Either way, he's a disgrace to our country and doing immeasurable harm to us.


I guess my only point here is that I get you don't like Bush Jr. (Neither did I), but PLEASE don't put him in the same group as Trump. It falsely legitimizes Trump and that is not OK.

Given the choice, I'd take 8 more years of Bush right now, to avoid the next 14+ months (or 62, God forbid) of Trump. In a heartbeat.
This brings up a point I've been wondering about lately: Does Trump know he's lying? I mean, is he so caught up in inventing his own reality that he actually buys into it? Convinces himself it's real? Or does he buy into the reality that all people are stupid enough to believe he has any credibility, beyond the tribal MAGA hat supporters?
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Old 10-23-2019, 01:49 PM
 
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
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I'm no fan of Bush Jr., but I would not label him a traitor anymore than I'd label Obama, Clinton, Bush Sr., or Reagan one. I didn't agree with his politics, and like any politician (either side) he did some dirty things. I hate it, but that comes with the office.

Trump is in a league by himself. He is likely so filthy dirty that we've never seen the likes of him before, and I hope we never will again. If he's not dirty, it just shows he is THAT stupid and gullible (just like I said above about his base), and unqualified for the office. Either way, he's a disgrace to our country and doing immeasurable harm to us.


I guess my only point here is that I get you don't like Bush Jr. (Neither did I), but PLEASE don't put him in the same group as Trump. It falsely legitimizes Trump and that is not OK.

Given the choice, I'd take 8 more years of Bush right now, to avoid the next 14+ months (or 62, God forbid) of Trump. In a heartbeat.
Yet, you wouldn't vote for Bush or someone like him. And you wouldn't complain when the DNC conducted its usual character assassination and claims of "racist!" "misogynist!" "corporatist!" etc. that they do to ANYONE who doesn't have a (D) after his or her name.

Trump is not "in the same group" because he actually fights back. That's why you and the other liberal statists hate him so much.
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Old 10-23-2019, 01:55 PM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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Prove it with a video or a transcript. Leaks from Schiff, the RESIST Democrats, and the DNC propaganda outlets do NOT count.
Never fear. Open testimony is coming.

Nancy is simply biding her time until the most opportune moment (i.e. closer to the election) because she can. Republicans have themselves to blame for that.
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Old 10-23-2019, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Originally Posted by Myghost View Post
I'm no fan of Bush Jr., but I would not label him a traitor anymore than I'd label Obama, Clinton, Bush Sr., or Reagan one. I didn't agree with his politics, and like any politician (either side) he did some dirty things. I hate it, but that comes with the office.

Trump is in a league by himself. He is likely so filthy dirty that we've never seen the likes of him before, and I hope we never will again. If he's not dirty, it just shows he is THAT stupid and gullible (just like I said above about his base), and unqualified for the office. Either way, he's a disgrace to our country and doing immeasurable harm to us.


I guess my only point here is that I get you don't like Bush Jr. (Neither did I), but PLEASE don't put him in the same group as Trump. It falsely legitimizes Trump and that is not OK.

Given the choice, I'd take 8 more years of Bush right now, to avoid the next 14+ months (or 62, God forbid) of Trump. In a heartbeat.
Ghost, at first I was gonna agree w you.

However, Upon-Further-Review, DubYa is in a whole ‘nother league. His “fake†WMD’s cost us $trillions and thousands of lives. aka one HUGE lie is much worse than Trump’s 13,000 lies and Trump hasn’t cost us $trillions (yet).
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Old 10-23-2019, 01:58 PM
 
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
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Never fear. Open testimony is coming.

Nancy is simply biding her time until the most opportune moment (i.e. closer to the election) because she can. Republicans have themselves to blame for that.
And when these Soviet-style tactics are used on the Democrats, no complaining from you. The Democrats destroyed advice and consent for judicial nominations and they have now destroyed impeachment. They just hate the Constitution, which we all knew already.


The good news is that they aren't going to get away with it. But, when the Mueller report comes out I am sure Trump is toast.
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Old 10-23-2019, 01:59 PM
 
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And when these Soviet-style tactics are used on the Democrats, no complaining from you. The Democrats destroyed advice and consent for judicial nominations and they have now destroyed impeachment. They just hate the Constitution, which we all knew already.


The good news is that they aren't going to get away with it. But, when the Mueller report comes out I am sure Trump is toast.
Don't worry, republicans have been using these style tactics and worse on democrats since Nixon, they are used to it. The idea that they would NOT use them were it not for Trump being a criminal and getting himself impeached is laughable. Merrick Garland anyone? How long did they investigate BC for again? The list goes on and on.
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Old 10-23-2019, 02:00 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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If Trump did nothing wrong, there would be no need to keep these hidden:

https://apnews.com/8b5015ee2b45435892fea49fdc73174e

I'm betting his administration will fight this tooth and nail until the very end. You know, cause that's what you do with evidence that proves your innocence.
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Old 10-23-2019, 02:01 PM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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And when these Soviet-style tactics are used on the Democrats, no complaining from you....
Don't worry, I won't be complaining.

I would be right there with you complaining about this go 'round had it not been the other party that put the wheels in motion. A quintessential example of "be careful what you ask for".

You and the others with the "Soviet" nonsense. Which radio personality put that bug in your ears? Rush? Levin?
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