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Old 10-24-2019, 03:07 AM
 
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Electing Trump over Hillary was perfectly OK...

But, following him blindly without any critique when he lies lies lies, puts down US allies, grovels for Dictators, golfs constantly, watching TV for hours each day during normal working hours..


When it goes from being happy to win over the Democrats to accepting whatever he does... its not OK.



Quite sickening watching TV preachers calling him the second coming of christ and using bible verses to try to explain why he is the chosen one.
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Old 10-24-2019, 03:37 AM
 
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No. I'd rather point an laugh at the people languishing in self imposed ignorance. If you want answers, find them yourself.
Just what I expected, fold your tent while you clap with one hand.
Amateurs.

Ignorance ? I have seen first hand the damage Democrats have done to America. Keep supporting Adam’s Clown Circus.
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Old 10-24-2019, 03:51 AM
 
Location: Long Island, N.Y.
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No, no, no, don't try that worn out "You lost, get over it" schtick. That lost it's appeal two years ago.

The reality is, if Donald Trump had started his term as a sane, intelligent, in control, non combative, willing to learn, reasonable human being, we would have little to complain about. One side, or the other, loses elections every 4 years, and you have NEVER seen this level of discontent and upheaval as in this particular Presidency.

Trump brought all of this on by himself. From his very first Inauguration speech, he had to come out with both guns blazing. He had no interest or ability in uniting this country, or working with anyone, especially our most valuable allies. He had this attitude of "My way or the highway", and he soon found out that he could not keep people working for him because they had the nerve to speak up to him and try to guide him. Trump is as dumb as a rock and getting dumber by the day.

So, don't even try pulling that card this time, we ain't buying it. You elected a turd of a human being, and you are reaping the rewards of making that lousy decision. Just because you are willing to sit by and watch this clown destroy everything in his path doesn't mean we have to sit by and go down the tubes with you.
That's some unhinged hatred right there, seek help immediately.
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Old 10-24-2019, 05:11 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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No, no, no, don't try that worn out "You lost, get over it" schtick. That lost it's appeal two years ago.

The reality is, if Donald Trump had started his term as a sane, intelligent, in control, non combative, willing to learn, reasonable human being, we would have little to complain about. One side, or the other, loses elections every 4 years, and you have NEVER seen this level of discontent and upheaval as in this particular Presidency.

Trump brought all of this on by himself. From his very first Inauguration speech, he had to come out with both guns blazing. He had no interest or ability in uniting this country, or working with anyone, especially our most valuable allies. He had this attitude of "My way or the highway", and he soon found out that he could not keep people working for him because they had the nerve to speak up to him and try to guide him. Trump is as dumb as a rock and getting dumber by the day.

So, don't even try pulling that card this time, we ain't buying it. You elected a turd of a human being, and you are reaping the rewards of making that lousy decision. Just because you are willing to sit by and watch this clown destroy everything in his path doesn't mean we have to sit by and go down the tubes with you.
"Human being"?

Who knew...?
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Old 10-24-2019, 05:14 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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I.e., election nullification, for no cause whatsoever other than that you lost the election and control the apparatus of public opinion formation.
Were you crying "election nullification" during the Clinton impeachment?

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Old 10-24-2019, 05:20 AM
 
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Originally Posted by don1945 View Post
No, no, no, don't try that worn out "You lost, get over it" schtick. That lost it's appeal two years ago.

The reality is, if Donald Trump had started his term as a sane, intelligent, in control, non combative, willing to learn, reasonable human being, we would have little to complain about. One side, or the other, loses elections every 4 years, and you have NEVER seen this level of discontent and upheaval as in this particular Presidency.

Trump brought all of this on by himself. From his very first Inauguration speech, he had to come out with both guns blazing. He had no interest or ability in uniting this country, or working with anyone, especially our most valuable allies. He had this attitude of "My way or the highway", and he soon found out that he could not keep people working for him because they had the nerve to speak up to him and try to guide him. Trump is as dumb as a rock and getting dumber by the day.

So, don't even try pulling that card this time, we ain't buying it. You elected a turd of a human being, and you are reaping the rewards of making that lousy decision. Just because you are willing to sit by and watch this clown destroy everything in his path doesn't mean we have to sit by and go down the tubes with you.
You are correct about that. But that fact speaks far more about the Dems than Trump.

He was elected because he promised to drain the swamp. He is doing just that, and the American worker is winning. The swamp creatures in the beltway, the universities, the media and government bureaucrats are not happy about this, however, and are fighting back.
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Old 10-24-2019, 05:30 AM
 
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Withholding aid authorized by Congress to get a foreign nation to manufacture dirt on political opponents is a violation of a couple laws as well as the Constitution.

Whereas, impeachment for "high crimes and misdemeanors," of which the above criminal conduct certainly falls under, is not only legal but the responsibility of Congress as outlined in the our Constitution.
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Old 10-24-2019, 05:41 AM
 
Location: Long Island, N.Y.
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Withholding aid authorized by Congress to get a foreign nation to manufacture dirt on political opponents is a violation of a couple laws as well as the Constitution.

Whereas, impeachment for "high crimes and misdemeanors," of which the above criminal conduct certainly falls under, is not only legal but the responsibility of Congress as outlined in the our Constitution.
With a treaty between the two countries to root out corruption, president Trump was well within legal means to seek inormation of misdeeds of the Bidens, Joe's campaign for president aside doesn't shield him, or these allegations, from scrutiny.
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Old 10-24-2019, 05:42 AM
 
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Which makes no sense. Republicans are already part of the hearings. It's not like Gaetz needs to be in there to have Republican representation. Republicans are part of the process, can ask questions, etc. And there will be public hearings on all of this once impeachment inevitably moves forward. Gaetz gains nothing and seems to be just trying to spread the stupid conspiracy that this constitutionally-adherent process is a sham. Do Trump supporters really believe only Democrats are in these hearings?
"Which makes no sense. Republicans are already part of the hearings."

Out of ALL the witnesses called, how many are repubs asked to appear?

"House Minority Whip Steve Scalise, R-La
“Voting members of Congress are being denied access from being able to see what’s happening behind these closed doors where they’re trying to impeach the president of the United States with a one-sided set of rules,” Scalise continued. “They call the witnesses. They don’t let anybody else call the witnesses."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gop...he-proceedings

"Mr. Trump’s lawyers have been denied the chance to see evidence or call their own witnesses, and Republicans have been denied subpoena power. The work of the impeachment committees has been restricted, even from some Republican members of those committees."

Why is schiff only leaking info NEGATIVE to Trump?

If this is suppose some super "secret" hearing, why the leaks at all?
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Old 10-24-2019, 05:51 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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With a treaty between the two countries to root out corruption, president Trump was well within legal means to seek inormation of misdeeds of the Bidens, Joe's campaign for president aside doesn't shield him, or these allegations, from scrutiny.
No one believes that Trump is this big corruption fighter but he went well beyond requesting specific information on Burisma and Hunter Biden. No one can explain what changed to allow the release of funds or why they were held up in the first place, not even Mulvaney. The only reason they were released was when the whistle blower complaint was leaked, maybe you can tell us why they were released other than being exposed.
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