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Old 11-10-2019, 07:36 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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This ^^^^ (the bolded word) is Exhibit A for why the whistle blower should be kept anonymous and protected. The WB was acting very much within the law so cannot be a traitor by any stretch of the term. People who use that term to describe Americans who care deeply for the integrity of this country are the ones we need to be worried about.
LOL...the Whistle Liar is a Deep State operative and needs to be outed. This Fake Impeachment circle jerk is amusing and even more so when the pissing in the wind exercise by the Dims comes back in their faces.
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Old 11-10-2019, 07:38 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Senator Graham is just following orders from the White House to create chaos in the House hearings. Trump is afraid that the House hearings will build momentum and that Republicans will start to defect just as they did against Tricky Dick. So Trump wants to quash any momentum with lots of outrageous claims and pushing his ridiculous and discredited conspiracy theory. Once Republicans start defecting, it will be a tidal wave as nobody wants to be left looking like the lone loon who still supports the criminal President.
At any rate, it's ridiculous to hope or expect Senate Republicans to think their fellow Republican, Trump, should be impeached simply over trying to get foreign help in finding dirt on his Democrat rival--Biden. It doesn't matter if such an act is against election law.
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Old 11-10-2019, 07:38 PM
 
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Lol at you people calling government employees traitors for not having personal loyalty to Trump at all costs. Their first duty is to the country. In the discussions where removing him was considered, that was necessary because Trump’s unstable and reckless behavior was perceived as a threat to the country by these long serving career government professionals.
Are these “ long serving career government professionals “ elected by the people ? They are simply employees , and serve the country at the direction of the Departments they belong to. Departments headed up by elected Government Officials. Their opinions regarding foreign policy and other matters have no more weight than the truck driver delivering milk to the grocery store. They are actually the “ threat to the country “ , because the votes of the people can’t directly remove them.

“ first duty is to the country” . Right. Until they leave their positions, go work for as a lobbyist or as a Talking Head in the MSM. So patriotic.
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Old 11-10-2019, 07:39 PM
 
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At any rate, it's ridiculous to hope or expect Senate Republicans to think their fellow Republican, Trump, should be impeached simply over trying to get foreign help in finding dirt on his Democrat rival--Biden. It doesn't matter if such an act is against election law.
Especially considering that's not what actually happened.
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Old 11-10-2019, 07:39 PM
 
Location: Clyde Hill, WA
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Senator Graham has made it clear that any so-called "Impeachment" vote will be "Dead on arrival" in the Senate, if the House bars the testimony and cross-examination of the [b]Eric ...Of course Senator Graham is right and any fair, justice minded Senator will agree, as the failure to included the testimony of the "Whistleblower" will establish this whole process as the illegitimate kangagroo court partisan lynch mob style process that it is increasingly clear that it has become.

Well said, Senator Graham.
This is the thing. Both House and Senate get to run the process as they see fit, per the Constitution.

If the House pursues a skewed process, using selective leaks, fabricated dialogue, etc., the Senate can be expected to react in kind.

They could just summarily dismiss if they want, but my guess is that McConnell will not do that. There will be too much opportunity for him to make House Dems look bad for him to pass up.
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Old 11-10-2019, 07:40 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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LOL...the Whistle Liar is a Deep State operative and needs to be outed. This Fake Impeachment circle jerk is amusing and even more so when the pissing in the wind exercise by the Dims comes back in their faces.
No doubt, you would quite strongly disagree if the president was Democrat, rather than Republican. Right? Then an impeachment would be quite sorely needed. No Democrat president should seek foreign help in finding dirt on his Republican rival. It's a serious crime, bordering on treason. It's how the game of politics works.
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Old 11-10-2019, 07:44 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Especially considering that's not what actually happened.
Then what happened?
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Old 11-10-2019, 07:49 PM
 
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Then what happened?
Trump asked Ukrainians to prove their commitment to fighting corruption by looking into a few high profile instances of likely corruption. That's something that is completely normal and there's nothing wrong with it, but then Democrats that were unfortunately placed in a position of trust freaked out, worried that if the Ukrainians investigated corruption it might hurt their party and they picked party over country by starting this whole mess.

Protecting the false reputation of Joe Biden was more important to them than the strategic interest of their country.
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Old 11-10-2019, 07:52 PM
 
Location: DFW
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No Democrat president should seek foreign help in finding dirt on his Republican rival. It's a serious crime, bordering on treason. It's how the game of politics works.
So a corrupt Politician who's done a crime in a Foreign country or in the US should escape Investigation because they decide to run for President ?
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Old 11-10-2019, 07:52 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Are these “ long serving career government professionals “ elected by the people ? They are simply employees , and serve the country at the direction of the Departments they belong to. Departments headed up by elected Government Officials. Their opinions regarding foreign policy and other matters have no more weight than the truck driver delivering milk to the grocery store. They are actually the “ threat to the country “ , because the votes of the people can’t directly remove them.

“ first duty is to the country” . Right. Until they leave their positions, go work for as a lobbyist or as a Talking Head in the MSM. So patriotic.
Absurd post.

They were discussing the 25th amendment procedure that is authorized in the Constitution, and they were the ones authorized to initiate said constitutional procedure should it become needed. (Hint: the maniac’s out of control behavior clearly indicated it may be needed).
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