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Old 11-12-2019, 10:37 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Like leftist and transplants do?
Not so much. The folks who want to move here and haven't seem to hate the transplants more than the Idahoans.

The transplants are far from being nothing but leftists. Idaho is seen as being a conservative's paradise, so they are moving in in big numbers too.

The facts are both are coming in about the same numbers. And not just from California, either.
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Old 11-12-2019, 10:41 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Most cities of any size are already blue. That doesn't necessarily make them attractive for large numbers of liberal Californians. It's also all relative. Blue cities in blue states are going to be more progressive than blue cities in very red states. Idaho is a very red state.
But California Conservatives Are Moving to Texas, Other Republican Areas: https://www.yahoo.com/news/californi...130617543.html

Some Californians, and those from Washington and Oregon are moving to Oklahoma to get in on the booming med marijuana industry. If Texas legalizes marijuana in some way, that means a lot more Californians coming. At least nobody is bothering Idaho by moving there for the legal marijuana.
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Old 11-12-2019, 10:42 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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And consider this. Tom McCall led the "don't move to Oregon" scream when he was governor of Oregon. It didn't stop Californians or people from other states from moving there.

Wyoming is a different kind of state. Montana has historically had more industry than Wyoming. Both states have mining, but Montana has had more smelters. Butte has long been a Democratic stronghold in Montana. Copper smelting center. Wyoming has no such strongholds, aside from maybe Laramie. Clinton won Albany County in 1992 and 1996. It voted for Obama in 2008, and no Democrat has won it since.
Yup.
Of all the intermountain west's states, only Wyoming is losing population.
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Old 11-12-2019, 10:43 PM
 
Location: London
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Wah wah wah.

These other states never stopped to think that the reason there are even so many Californians in the first place is because of all the Americans from other states who once migrated there. California never tried to drive them out; and they're a part of the reason it's so expensive there to this day.

Now the tides are turning...they can just deal with it. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
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Old 11-12-2019, 10:45 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Hah, guess where the most HOA's are?

Just the Villages (famous right wing Florida community) has 150,000 residents. In all my travels in the Hilton Head and many other areas in the South, people live in gated communities with HOA's.

I'm with you....I was joking......but, bottom line, just like Cheney and his friends buy up Jackson Hole WY and land their private jets there, Idaho has no say in any of this.

They cannot say "hey, we won't allow you to spend money on property". That's capitalism....

Anyway, Gated Communities and HOA's seem MUCH more popular in many of the Red and Southern States I have been to. Maybe someone can confirm or deny that by their experience.....

Much of this is due to those being newer communities - obviously they can't "gate" all the places that already exist as easily.
The Villages in Florida , an over 55 community, is the fastest growing metropolitan area in the US. Fox News is broadcast in the public squares. It’s a must stop for any Republican running for POTUS. Thousands of clubs and activities.
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Old 11-12-2019, 10:47 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Would be interesting to get hard numbers...
Florida, Texas and California have the most Single family HOAs.
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Old 11-12-2019, 10:50 PM
 
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Not so much. The folks who want to move here and haven't seem to hate the transplants more than the Idahoans.

The transplants are far from being nothing but leftists. Idaho is seen as being a conservative's paradise, so they are moving in in big numbers too.

The facts are both are coming in about the same numbers. And not just from California, either.
I don't know about Idaho but I would bet less conservative people are or will start moving there, and I will bet eventually they will alter it mostly for the worse. Isn't that what happened to CA and else where? They were more conservative too and didn't start out so liberal.
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Old 11-12-2019, 10:51 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Have you ever been there?

Boise and Coeur d'Alene both have good "granola hippie" potential. Was already some of that there when I was there.

Sun Valley/Ketchum, similar to Aspen, is already blue. As is the area around Moscow (Univ of Idaho).

If Boise ever got big enough, I don't have a hard time imagining Idaho being a smaller version of Oregon.

Northern Idaho used to be blue due to all the mines.
While Trump won the state he did not do as well as Romney did in 2012 because of the popularity of third party candidates.
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Old 11-12-2019, 10:56 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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What are these transplants going to do for jobs?
In all of Idaho's growing cities, the demand for labor is outpacing the supply. When that happens, the wages go up.
When a transplant comes with enough money from a house sale to buy another house without struggling for the money, a lower wage here is often just as good when it's money in the pocket.

Our housing is cheaper, but it's only part of our lower cost of living. $15 an hour buys more here than it does in other states.

There's always some trade-off someplace. Some transplants find moving here was the worst move of their life, while others find it to be the best. It really depends on the place and the timing.
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Old 11-12-2019, 11:13 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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I don't know about Idaho but I would bet less conservative people are or will start moving there, and I will bet eventually they will alter it mostly for the worse. Isn't that what happened to CA and else where? They were more conservative too and didn't start out so liberal.
Don't be too sure of that. Idaho is a state of natural extremes, and that extremity tends to make everyone more libertarian and conservative than they once were after they have lived here for a while. Our liberals, by and large, are more like conservative moderates in other states.

Idaho wasn't always a politically conservative as it is now. 100 years ago, Idaho was largely radically socialist from the Canadian border to Boise.

For most of my 75 years here, Idaho has been only moderately conservative, with about 1/3 a liberal minority in the legislature and a Democratic governor leading the government. Whenever a Republican governor was elected, the legislature changed.

That was the steady pattern until the 1990s, when the Republicans began to slowly take over. After that happened, Idaho became the state everyone thinks it always was.

Nowadays, another swing is changing it once more.
There are fewer radical conservatives in office than there once were.
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