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Old 11-14-2019, 09:48 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Just to be clear, here is the 6th Amendment:



Are you complaining about "...to be confronted with witnesses against him..."? The whistle blower is not a witness against Trump. He may have prompted the House to find witnesses against Trump, but the 6th doesn't say anything about that.
You saying it is Adam Schiff that is the accuser?
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Old 11-15-2019, 05:18 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Why not call the guy trying to frame you, to answer many questions we already know the answer to.
Yes Mulvaney should be called to testify.
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Old 11-15-2019, 05:22 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Schiff stated he doesn't know the identity of the WB. That's different from him saying he never met with him.

Everybody knows the name of the WB; it was outed last week.

Besides all the R's have to do is subpoena members of Schiff's staff. Under threat of imprisonment due to perjury, they will roll over on Schiff easily and will testify if he knew or met with the WB. Then Schiff goes to prison.
Graham and Jordan claimed he does know the identity, maybe they need to subpoena their source rather than threatening to subpoena Schiff. This is nothing more than a distraction.
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Old 11-15-2019, 05:34 AM
 
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Graham and Jordan claimed he does know the identity, maybe they need to subpoena their source rather than threatening to subpoena Schiff. This is nothing more than a distraction.
First you see if Schiff is willing to perjure himself over the issue, if he is, then you reveal your sources that prove he is guilty at his criminal trial.
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Old 11-15-2019, 05:36 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Graham and Jordan claimed he does know the identity, maybe they need to subpoena their source rather than threatening to subpoena Schiff. This is nothing more than a distraction.
little adam Schitt-storm is going to be called and put under oath....and there's too many lies he told to survive, his testimony will include mostly a 5th amendment plea.
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Old 11-15-2019, 05:57 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Trump was caught soliciting a bribe and had to send the money to Ukraine.

Art. II Sec. 4 of the Constitution says bribery is impeachable.

I can see Schiff in front of them now. Laying out the facts of the case.

Trump needs to be impeached and removed.

You must has skipped over Article II, Section III


"he shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed"


Good luck making the case that discharging his presidential duties, as required by the Constitution, is also bribery.


https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articleii
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Old 11-15-2019, 06:03 AM
 
Location: Boston
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all House members on the committee as well as Pelosi will also be on the list of those called to testify.

This should be fun!

Dems are going to regret the day they ever considered impeachment.
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Old 11-15-2019, 06:06 AM
 
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Interesting that Lindsay wants to call Schiff instead of ALL THOSE WITNESSES that can prove Trump's innocence.

You know. Like Pompeo. Or Mulvaney. Or Rudy. Hell, even the actual call itself.
For some reason this makes me laugh.


It would only be topped by some Dem pulling all Graham's comments from the Clinton impeachment and reading the pertinent ones verbatim.
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Old 11-15-2019, 06:09 AM
 
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all House members on the committee as well as Pelosi will also be on the list of those called to testify.

This should be fun!

Dems are going to regret the day they ever considered impeachment.
They really won't. There are more people for impeachment than against at this point- although there are still a number of people who have no leaning. And in many districts it is going to be a positive instead of a liability for the Dem. If you look back to the late 90s- Clinton's impeachment was less popular and the Rs still won the Presidency and held the house in the next election. Angering another 4% of voters in Wyoming and Mississippi will not be a deterrent to Dems.
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Old 11-15-2019, 06:25 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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They can easily prevent a trial in the Senate, it just takes a majority vote and the Republicans have those votes. If anything isn't to their liking, they can throw the partisan impeachment articles in the trash as soon as they receive them. Higher information voters already know this off course.
To that the Dems would probably quote King Leonidas from the movie 300: "Pray they're that stupid. Pray we're that lucky."

A vote to dismiss without a trial would be impossibly bad optics if the impeachment effort makes it out of the House.
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