In 300 pages, House lays out evidence for Trump impeachment (attorneys, parties, Senate)

[BentBow]

Originally Posted by BeerGeek40

Yawn, Senate is not going to convict him. 2020 election will decide his fate.

They know that and they will use it to oust Senators that didn't convict Trump, that are up for re-election this cycle.

[skeddy]

nobody is reading 300 pages of lies and deceit. It's the holiday season, Christmas with Nadler and Schiff?

lmao Nobody wants to watch that clown show...People have lost what little interest that had. Once again Dems crash and burn.

[bobbythegreat]

Originally Posted by TEPLimey

Again the propriety of Trump leveraging strategic aid to force a foreign country to investigate Trump's political rival does not hinge on whether the foreign country reports back to Trump that they did or did not find anything.

Moreover, the fact that Trump only wanted an announcement of an investigation and didn't care about an investigation itself (as Sondland testified) destroys any plausible claim that Trump wanted to know if Biden had done anything wrong or, frankly, that he wanted anything other than dirt with which he could smear Biden. That fact further undermines your argument that Biden's guilt/innocence is of any import.

You have to prove that was his reason in order to have a case, the act of leveraging aid is not in itself illegal, you have no evidence whatsoever suggesting that his reasons were anything other than what he claims they are. Sondland's assumption is not evidence.

You are really good with making allegations, but kind of terrible when it comes to proving them.

[GotHereQuickAsICould]

Yes, it is illegal to withhold security aid that Congress has authorized.

Regardless of the reason, that is illegal.

[GotHereQuickAsICould]

Yes, it is illegal to seek election assistance from a foreign country.

Had Trump any interest in opposing corruption in general, Yovanovitch would still be the ambassador.

[bobbythegreat]

Originally Posted by GotHereQuickAsICould

Yes, it is illegal to withhold security aid that Congress has authorized.

Regardless of the reason, that is illegal.

LOL, then try to make that case and dump the nonsense about "bribes" that you have no evidence for whatsoever.

You know you can't make a case that his delay of aid in an effort to gain investigations into corruption is inherently illegal....and that's why no one is even trying to make that case.

[GotHereQuickAsICould]

Not only can the case be made, it is being made.

You need better material Bobby if you want to hang on to that title of yours.

[bobbythegreat]

Originally Posted by GotHereQuickAsICould

Yes, it is illegal to seek election assistance from a foreign country.

Had Trump any interest in opposing corruption in general, Yovanovitch would still be the ambassador.

Again, you are assuming intent with that statement that you cannot prove so your allegation is no better than a conspiracy theory.

[bobbythegreat]

Originally Posted by GotHereQuickAsICould

Not only can the case be made, it is being made.

You need better material Bobby if you want to hang on to that title of yours.

No, no one is even attempting to claim that the delay of aid was in itself an impeachable act, they are talking about unproven nonsense like "bribery"

[GotHereQuickAsICould]

Once again, BobbytheMagnificent, Trump was clear that he wanted a favor, it's in the memo of the call, and Mulvaney admitted publicly that politics were involved in withholding the aid.

Mulvaney encouraged people to get over it.

You've got a weak argument here. As for better material.