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Old 01-02-2020, 08:57 AM
 
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That's an indictment of the House Democrats who disgraced themselves and their office by voting to authorize flawed impeachment articles without evidence.
Your personal opinion on whether the impeachment process was "flawed" and $3.99 will get you a Big Mac at McD's. In the meantime, you can side with those who seek the facts and truth or those who wish to hide them for political purposes. There is no third option.
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Old 01-02-2020, 09:00 AM
 
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Your personal opinion on whether the impeachment process was "flawed" and $3.99 will get you a Big Mac at McD's. In the meantime, you can side with those who seek the facts and truth or those who wish to hide them for political purposes. There is no third option.
Lol I know you don't even believe that ridiculous rhetoric. You are digging quite the hole when it comes to credibility. At some point it's going to be impossible to get ot if it if you keep digging. This just isn't the hill to die on.
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Old 01-02-2020, 09:04 AM
 
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Lol I know you don't even believe that ridiculous rhetoric. You are digging quite the hole when it comes to credibility. At some point it's going to be impossible to get ot if it if you keep digging. This just isn't the hill to die on.
Reason people do want to hear from witnesses and see the documentary evidence: The truth will come out.

Reason people don't want to hear from witnesses or see the documentary evidence: The truth will come out.
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Old 01-02-2020, 09:04 AM
 
Location: Chicago area
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I know bobby, lets ask Trump to release the phone call wrongly hidden in a super secret server and allow all of the people close to his "drug deal" to testify. Would it help to hear the truth straight from the horses mouth? Yes, Do you think that will happen or do you think the Republican's and Trump will do their best to keep it hidden? Heck if Trump can blab top secret information to the Russians after his first few days in office causing the CIA to lose a top spy, he can release the entire conversation word for word to the American people. If there was a hint that it was "a perfect conversation," wouldn't he have done so? Wouldn't he allow all of the people close to it to testify?
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Old 01-02-2020, 09:10 AM
 
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Reason people do want to hear from witnesses and see the documentary evidence: The truth will come out.

Reason people don't want to hear from witnesses or see the documentary evidence: The truth will come out.
You're grasping at straws and it's the same rhetoric we've heard for 3 years now. It's always that some evidence of some crime is forthcoming to be used as an excuse to continue to believe without evidence.

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I know bobby, lets ask Trump to release the phone call
The phone call was released, quite a long time ago by Trump and it ruined the plan to merely lie about what was in it by those who believed it would never be released.
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Old 01-02-2020, 09:12 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Lol I know you don't even believe that ridiculous rhetoric. You are digging quite the hole when it comes to credibility. At some point it's going to be impossible to get ot if it if you keep digging. This just isn't the hill to die on.
LOL! You are like on this 24/7! You are arguing as if you have nothing else going.
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Old 01-02-2020, 09:17 AM
 
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Now you get it!

Seems you agree that the house impeached without enough evidence....


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You are afraid to the truth, aren't you?


The truth is out there...because you disagree with it, is nobody's fault but your own. That's the reason you still want more testimony...your still digging to find the "something."
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Old 01-02-2020, 09:18 AM
 
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You're grasping at straws and it's the same rhetoric we've heard for 3 years now. It's always that some evidence of some crime is forthcoming to be used as an excuse to continue to believe without evidence.
There was plenty of circumstantial evidence that the aid was being withheld by Trump to strongarm Zelensky into announcing an investigation into announcing an investigation into Joe Biden. At the impeachment level, Trump went out of his way to block the direct evidence from coming out. Today, we find ourselves at the trial level.

At this point you can be a proponent of transparency in order to see and hear the direct factual evidence so that the Senate (and you) can evaluate the matter on its merits or, alternatively, you can advocate for the opacity in order to stop the direct factual evidence from coming to light. As I said, there is no third option.
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Old 01-02-2020, 09:19 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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You're grasping at straws and it's the same rhetoric we've heard for 3 years now. It's always that some evidence of some crime is forthcoming to be used as an excuse to continue to believe without evidence.



The phone call was released, quite a long time ago by Trump and it ruined the plan to merely lie about what was in it by those who believed it would never be released.
It never was, you know. What was released was labeled by the WH as a "summary", and only covered about 20% of the call.

If you have different information, let's see it.
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Old 01-02-2020, 09:21 AM
 
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Your personal opinion on whether the impeachment process was "flawed" and $3.99 will get you a Big Mac at McD's. In the meantime, you can side with those who seek the facts and truth or those who wish to hide them for political purposes. There is no third option.


If it's good enough for the house, it's good enough for the senate....unless you're saying that the house impeached without proper evidence....
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