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Old 01-13-2020, 08:54 AM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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Sometimes lethal force by LEO officers is justified. I don't know enough about this case to form an opinion.
He was armed only per the LEO's statement.
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Old 01-13-2020, 09:00 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Cop should have shot him long before he did.
Yes, there was enough time for dozens of leg-shots.
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Old 01-13-2020, 09:00 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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This video is a perfect example why.
Very disturbing.
https://www.full30.com/embed/MDIxMjI...Ntm9SzzoOv_i00
Should have shot him in his knife hand.
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Old 01-13-2020, 09:03 AM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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Should have shot him in his knife hand.
A handgun is not a sniper rifle.
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Old 01-13-2020, 09:04 AM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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He was armed only per the LEO's statement.
I don't know why you keep hammering on this case but I'll give you my position one last time: I don't know enough about it to form an opinion.
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Old 01-13-2020, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Cali
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A handgun is not a sniper rifle.
I was a Squad Designated Marksman in Iraq and I consider myself a good shot.


I don't think I would even make that shot with my M14 rifle unless the suspect stands still and let me shoot the gun out of his hand.
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Old 01-13-2020, 11:07 AM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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I was a Squad Designated Marksman in Iraq and I consider myself a good shot.


I don't think I would even make that shot with my M14 rifle unless the suspect stands still and let me shoot the gun out of his hand.
At such a short distance, doubt a M27 can do it either.
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Old 01-13-2020, 11:36 AM
 
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For anyone advocating leg shots, I recommend the following experiment:

Got to your local gun range. Rent a 9mm pistol, either Glock or Sig, since most police forces use one or the other. Buy a target. On that target, draw two rectangles roughly the size of your own thigh somewhere on the bottom half of the target. Hang the target and move it 10 yards down range. OK, target is all set. Now, load a full magazine into your 9mm pistol and holster it. OK, firearm is ready.

Now...do pushups until you literally cannot push yourself off the floor again. Wait one minute, then do that again. You need to do that until two things are the case - you are out of breath and your arms feel like jello. Immediately after finishing the last set of pushups, go to the ready line, draw, now fire the entire magazine in three shot bursts, aiming for the rectangles. When the slide racks locked, put down the weapon and retrieve the target.

If you got 1 shot in the entire magazine into either of those rectangles, you're a better marksman than like 90% of the population. 2 hits would make you better than 99%. 3 would be otherworldly. The reason being that under stress, with a bad case of stress shakes, hitting anything with a pistol from the standing position is pretty remarkable. Hitting small targets that are moving? Yeah, even harder.

Give it a try. Hell, practice for a year ad see how well you do. It isn't as easy as the armchair QBs like to think it is.
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Old 01-13-2020, 11:43 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Wait, what ...i thought guns were the issue ? Now it's sharp pointy things too ?!



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9FTDgw3W1Q
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Old 01-13-2020, 11:47 AM
 
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I haven't heard of this shooting and know nothing about it so I can't give my opinion on it. But I'll readily admit that that there have been quite a few unjustified police shootings in my area in recent years. I have spoken out about them. And I fully support spending the money to properly equip local law enforcement with the necessary tools for the job.
The cops in my areas shot a mentally ill guy because he had a shovel and wouldn't drop it. He didn't ran at them - he just wouldn't drop it when told so a cop shot and killed him.
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