Go on the record about impeachment removal from office (biased, election, laws)
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I don't believe he will be removed. Never thought he would be. The Republican controlled Senate will stop that from happening.
Trump has proudly boasted himself that he could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and his base would support him. This is true of the Republican politicians as well.
We've already floated 2 scenario's where removal would be almost meaningless, and could be used to benefit the Republicans.
I'm sure there are more scenario's out there.
With all of the very strong opinions from the left about how strong their evidence is surrounding impeachment, I expected more of the Dems to predict removal.
Either they don't really believe in their case, or believe the Republican Senate will flush it down the toilet no matter what, and the whole thing will have been a huge waste of time and money....other than smearing Trump which was likely the objective from the outset. Removal was never the objective imho.
I think the next Democrat President will be Imeached and smeared just like Trump has been as payback, if the Pubs control the House. The Dems opened the Impeachment door now, so it will likely become a common smear tactic used by both party's, whichever party controls the House when a new President from the opposing Party is elected.
Day 1 the new President gets sworn into office, day 2 they are impeached, and the smear campaign begins. Ho hum...just politicians politicking.
The money and human effort wasted could have been used in much better ways, so there's a large hidden cost, or opportunity cost, of not fixing other problems. There has been little talk about that.
What's the point of going on record with a prediction? I thought for sure OJ Simpson was going to be convicted, and I thought the Falcons were going to whip the Patriots in the 2017 Superbowl, so you just never know. As Trump himself has said, the system is rigged. But this time it is rigged in his favor. Regardless of how it turns out in the Senate, this was the right thing to do. The man is and has always been a liar and a cheat. If it weren't for the Dems in the House, much of Trump's perfidy would remain hidden.
"The man is and has always been a liar and a cheat.", if that criteria was used NO politician would ever be re-elected.
"The man is and has always been a liar and a cheat.", if that criteria was used NO politician would ever be re-elected.
Amen to that, AND every other disparaging words they use against Trump. Most politicians are former lawyers. We already know how Americans feel about lawyers. Trump not being a lawyer is refreshing to many Americans, and may have helped him to be elected.
It is not just about removal from office. That is only one possible outcome, obviously the most severe. The impeachment process is supposed to bring the facts before the Congress and the citizens of this country so that we can all examine them and decide about fitness for office.
Even if removal does not take place, Trump was impeached by the House and that in and of itself is a significant finding, just as it was for Clinton. It also gives an opportunity for political discourse which in the current climate is highly polarized and might be considered useless, but that is the nature of the impeachment process.
One of the purposes of impeachment is to re-emphasize the balance of power between Congress and the Administration. Founders thought that maybe this process would curb the behavior of a rogue leader, of course they never dreamed we would elect anyone like Donald Trump.
Point is, REMOVAL is only one of the outcomes/purposes of the impeachment process.
"The impeachment process is supposed to bring the facts before the Congress and the citizens of this country so that we can all examine them and decide about fitness for office."
And that did NOT happen. The repubs werer NOT ALLOWED to call a single witness.
The repubs were DENIED speaking to the "main witness", the whistle blower? In FACT his IDENTITY was , AND STILL IS kept from them.
Over an over the dems claimed "it HAS to be bi-partisan and t was just the opposite.
" Trump was impeached by the House and that in and of itself is a significant finding" The ONLY significant thing was EVERY dem voted "yes" and nor a single repub voted "yes".
AGAIN, remember pelosi, shiff and nadler ALL said it HAS to be BI-PARTISAN.
It is not just about removal from office. That is only one possible outcome, obviously the most severe. The impeachment process is supposed to bring the facts before the Congress and the citizens of this country so that we can all examine them and decide about fitness for office.
Even if removal does not take place, Trump was impeached by the House and that in and of itself is a significant finding, just as it was for Clinton. It also gives an opportunity for political discourse which in the current climate is highly polarized and might be considered useless, but that is the nature of the impeachment process.
One of the purposes of impeachment is to re-emphasize the balance of power between Congress and the Administration. Founders thought that maybe this process would curb the behavior of a rogue leader, of course they never dreamed we would elect anyone like Donald Trump.
Point is, REMOVAL is only one of the outcomes/purposes of the impeachment process.
The fact that so few Amercians believe Trump will be removed indicates to me that they dont feel there is substantial evidence to remove, or they dont think the Senate will remove no matter how solid the evidence is. I think the entire exercise hamred Democrats with the Independents, and that is the group who get Presidents elected. The Dems shot themselves in the foot with the most important voting block.
Even the Modrate Dems are upset with their own party because they know this was just a move by Pelosi to placate the AOC mob. Meanwhile, the Dem party isnt governing and fixing anything.
The door was opened by the GOP because of a sexual activity between 2 consenting adults. Bill decided to lie and created his impeachment. The Senate decided by 1 vote that was not worthy of removal. The DOJ created a memo, after this event, saying that a POTUS should not be investigated.
Today Trump has lied continuously from not knowing the people working for him to his payoff of a sexual affair during the birth of his youngest son. Currently Trump has been running the Gov't like a crime gang with all things being allowed even those against the Constitution and law.
Trump has paid off 2 fines on white collar crimes he committed since he took office. The DOJ has some memo, not a law mind you, a memo. That's says a POTUS when doing wrong should not be investigated.
Currently Trump has been proven to have Abused his Office by seeking a bribe on a foreign nation. To attack his opponent for the office.
To continue that he has Obstructed Congress in their lawful oversite capacity. Trump has openly told his staff to not honor lawful subpoenas. Not allowing Documents (which belong to us) to be disclosed. The ones he allowed have only deepened Trump's problems.
So I see that if the Senate really hold's a trial, Trump will be removed.
That's some really demented thinking. You people are brainwashed zombies, and a dangerous threat to the Union!
Dems seem to be content with a failed impeachment at this point. I thought they really wanted to remove Trump from office, we were wrong. Apparently failing was their goal.
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