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So what is your stance in the case of rape or incest? What if it is a young teen (say a 14 year old)? Would you force her to go through 9 months of pregnancy and have a baby? Or would you allow her to have an abortion?
What would you do if the woman's life is in danger from the pregnancy ... to the point that keeping the fetus will very likely kill her? Would you allow her to have an abortion?
It's the truth that is known from biological standpoint.
To say that abortion does NOT end life, end pregnancies, and kill babies is denial of science.
A pile of car parts does not equal a car.
Would you pay $50,000 for a garage filled with car parts that have not been assembled?
A fetus is not the same as a baby and does not have the same value as a baby.
If the value of a fetus equaled the value of a baby our society would require fathers to pay fetal support and you would be able to declare them as a dependent on your tax returns.
The beauty of Roe v Wade.....no one will ever force you to abort what you believe is a baby.
Anyone who thinks morals are absolute, really means they consider their morals to superior to all others and is frustrated they can’t force everyone to live by them. Hate it for them. Must be hard to walk among the rest of us morally inferior beings.
And individual's morals can be very fragile. A woman who wants all abortion banned may change her mind and go get an abortion after surprised by her unwanted pregnancy.
And individual's morals can be very fragile. A woman who wants all abortion banned may change her mind and go get an abortion after surprised by her unwanted pregnancy.
Kind of like pro-life politicians and leaders who make sure their mistresses get abortions even as they are attempting to deny them to everyone else. It's always different when it's personal.
Murder is a very serious crime. Punishment for it can be up to life in prison or even death. Do your morals tell you the same thing should happen to a woman who gets an abortion?
You are AGAIN looking to a legal solution to a MORAL issue.
Morality is quite clear. Murder is wrong. Abortion is wrong. If morality (which is absolute) were internalized -- instead of law -- women would NOT be getting abortions (except for medical necessity.... 'cuz I want to?' Is not a medical necessity). Women would know that abortion was wrong. The laws, whether they support abortion or don't support abortion would be IRRELEVANT.
I suspect most women deep down know it's wrong. It's why they always say ... WELL I WOULDN'T DO IT ... before claiming they support it. If they truly believed it were a great thing to do, well, they would have no problem doing it themselves, wouldn't they. Because it's all good.
I had been hoping you would be able to follow this line, but in spite of my many posts about morality and law-- which YOU keep bringing up-- and trying to lead you to this point, you are STUCK on whether it's legal. Not moral.
To you it will always be a legal issue. And I suspect if *suddenly* it was illegal, you would be OK with that. Because ... law. Right?
If you look to law to dictate your morality, you have no morals. General statement.
And individual's morals can be very fragile. A woman who wants all abortion banned may change her mind and go get an abortion after surprised by her unwanted pregnancy.
No, she wouldn't. Morality is absolute. Is she did 'change her mind' then she doesn't have that sense of morality.
Morality is SIMPLE. You want it to be complex. Not sure why.
No, she wouldn't. Morality is absolute. Is she did 'change her mind' then she doesn't have that sense of morality.
Morality is SIMPLE. You want it to be complex. Not sure why.
SIMPLE minds are unable to grasp complex issues. You should stop trying. You obviously lack the ability to see beyond black and white, and abortion is NOT a black and white issue. Only in your simple mind it is. You are in over your head.
Would you pay $50,000 for a garage filled with car parts that have not been assembled?
A fetus is not the same as a baby and does not have the same value as a baby.
If the value of a fetus equaled the value of a baby our society would require fathers to pay fetal support and you would be able to declare them as a dependent on your tax returns.
The beauty of Roe v Wade.....no one will ever force you to abort what you believe is a baby.
A baby in the womb has 100% of the DNA that is present at EVERY stage of development. A car part is not a car. Your analogy is beyond illogical.
You don't understand what RVW represents.
Aside from the fact that Jane Roe / Norma McCorvey? IS PROLIFE. And never EVER had an abortion.
But Planned Parenthood never tells you that, do they.
RVW is about privacy. We have the right to privacy, both men and women equally. Medical privacy. Don’t care if Jane did or didn’t. Doesn’t have a bearing on the decision the courts made.
So what is your stance in the case of rape or incest? What if it is a young teen (say a 14 year old)? Would you force her to go through 9 months of pregnancy and have a baby? Or would you allow her to have an abortion?
What would you do if the woman's life is in danger from the pregnancy ... to the point that keeping the fetus will very likely kill her? Would you allow her to have an abortion?
The circumstances of conception are irrelevant. If your arm was broken in a car accident or because you were assaulted during a robbery, would it be treated any differently? Would you demand it be amputated since it was contaminated by a crime?
If the mother's life is TRULY threatened, the mother should be saved. That is a MEDICAL treatment issue. Doesn't happen very often.
These "OMG, I'm gonna GOTCHA her with my BRILLIANT QUESTION" posts get tiresome. Because there's no 'gotcha' here, sorry, shrug.
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