Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
 
Old 02-07-2020, 04:59 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
33,942 posts, read 22,541,024 times
Reputation: 25816

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cruzincat View Post
Joe did not commit his brag on video until 2018. The "in your face" admission to possible corruption or conflict of interest came well after trump was elected.

If it is OK to impeach Trump, because "we can't take the chance for him to win re-election in 2020", then why is it not acceptable to investigate admitted conflict of interest in a possible candidate for the same election?
It's a moot point.

AG Barr, Trump's henchman, has declared that NO 2020 candidate is allowed to be investigated.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 02-07-2020, 05:01 PM
 
Location: Long Island
57,317 posts, read 26,236,916 times
Reputation: 15654
Quote:
Originally Posted by exm View Post
I'm really confused why people keep on defending Hunter and Joe Biden. Take off your 'Hate Trump' hat for a minute, or better, imagine if this wasn't Hunter and Joe Biden but John (made the name up) and Mike Pence.



A 2018 survey from FW Cook, a well-regarded executive compensation consulting firm, shows that of the companies in the S&P 500, large-cap companies, which are companies with a market value of more than $10 billion, paid individual board members a median of $275,000 a year. Among S&P 500 companies in the energy industry, board members were compensated with a median $213,000 a year, with those in the 75th percentile of the salary range still only bringing in $289,000, less than half of what Hunter Biden has been reported earning at Burisma.

Last week, Mark Hemingway of RealClearInvestigations reported on a study from Watchdog Research revealing that Hunter Biden was paid 12 times the amount expected at a similarly sized company, whose board members are typically paid about $55,000 to $83,000 for an entire year.

Burisma, according to Reuters, had a revenue of $400 million last year. In comparison, ExxonMobil reported earnings of $20.8 billion.

Looking at director compensation on ExxonMobil’s board of directors provides an even better perspective on Biden’s pay from Burisma. According to a 2018 proxy statement filed with the Securities and Exchanges Commission (SEC), the average level of compensation for Exxon’s board of directors in 2017 was almost $365,000. The median compensation was nearly $337,000. Only one of the company’s members of the board made more than $350,000 in total benefits, which was Susan K. Avery, who brought in approximately $767,000 for her work on the board.

While more than Biden’s pay from Burisma, Avery boasts an impressive resume with extensive knowledge in the field. Her experience, according to the report, includes membership on scientific and research advisory committees of NASA, NOAA, the National Science Foundation, the National Park System, the Climate Change Science Program, the Center for Southern Hemisphere Ocean Research, the Qingdao National Laboratory for Marine Science and Technology, and the Japan Agency for Marine-Earth Science and Technology.

She also came into the position at Exxon with experience serving as a member of the Scientific Advisory Board of the United Nations Secretary-General and the National Research Council Global Change Research Program Advisory Committee. Even more, she was the president and director of the global research organization, the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution from 2008 to 2015.

Hunter Biden’s qualifications? His father was the vice president of the United States and played a pivotal role in setting U.S. policy towards Burisma’s home country of Ukraine. It landed him a salary far above the typical board member.

Why is it so hard to admit that this is not okay?
Molly Hemingway, good grief talk about a biased source.


So now its not illegal but he is over paid, did she analyze any other board members in Russia or Ukraine.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-07-2020, 05:01 PM
 
13,900 posts, read 9,776,811 times
Reputation: 6856
Watch how republicans magically stop worrying about Hunter Biden after Sanders wins the nomination.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-07-2020, 05:27 PM
 
Location: The High Desert
16,097 posts, read 10,762,339 times
Reputation: 31519
Once Joe blackmailed Ukraine into firing prosecutor, what happened to Barisma investigation?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Toyman at Jewel Lake View Post

The story the Dems like to tell is that the prosecutor Shokin wasn't "tough enough" on corruption and that is why Biden blackmailed Ukrainian leadership into firing him.
You cite an opinion piece from WSJ. That carries no weight. Could as well be Mad Magazine. You live in a Trump-created fantasy land. Biden did not blackmail, or bribe, or extort, or strong arm Ukraine. Our allies in Europe knew Shokin was a crook. The Russians owned Shokin and there was no real effort underway on corruption. Biden's role was a joint State Department effort with our allies to send Shokin packing. The Russians were selling the idea of Ukrainian election meddling and Trump was suckered in and bought it. The whole thing is Trump's conspiracy theory. God knows, Putin would not mislead Trump, right?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-07-2020, 05:36 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
30,390 posts, read 19,184,321 times
Reputation: 26297
Quote:
Originally Posted by DC at the Ridge View Post
Not okay does not equal criminal corruption. Hunter Biden didn't commit any crimes. Neither did his father. Why is this so difficult to understand?
Not difficult....quid pro quo Joe abused his authority to get his son millions and abused his authority and blackmailed the Ukrainians....why is that so hard for Dims to admit?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-07-2020, 05:37 PM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
16,759 posts, read 8,220,852 times
Reputation: 8537
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tall Traveler View Post
Not difficult....quid pro quo Joe abused his authority to get his son millions and abused his authority and blackmailed the Ukrainians....why is that so hard for Dims to admit?
Propaganda should be removed.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-07-2020, 06:31 PM
 
9,254 posts, read 3,590,300 times
Reputation: 4852
Quote:
Originally Posted by Boss View Post
Propaganda should be removed.
Yea, this has moved from plausible gullibility to intentional propaganda. Only a paid poster or intentional troll could push this at this point.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-07-2020, 06:34 PM
 
45,676 posts, read 24,030,238 times
Reputation: 15559
oh lord -- making stuff up to try and create a story....have at it kids.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-07-2020, 06:46 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
25,777 posts, read 12,840,301 times
Reputation: 19350
Why did Hunter and Joe's other family member get paid Millions by the Ukranians when they had no knowlege of the energy industry?

Why did this occur while Joe Biden was in charge of Ukranian foreign aid monies?

If you deflect to other people, other times, other circumstance, you will have admitted defeat...and the Bidens corruption.

Stay on topic, and answer the question...if you can. If you are unwilling and/or unable...you lose.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-07-2020, 07:23 PM
 
7,473 posts, read 4,020,001 times
Reputation: 6462
Quote:
Originally Posted by TEPLimey View Post
No. If Biden was sent by the State Department and instructed to push to oust Shokin, his very-public efforts to oust Shokin could not have been corrupt. Full stop.

What Trump did was secretly suspend aid in direct contravention to (and undermining) US policy in a manner the GAO has already determined to be illegal. You don't even need to go any further than that (e.g., Trump's motive) to see where these two situations diverge.
That "GAO" broken law stuff is a paper tiger. Obama broke their "laws" 7 times...…….
https://www.cnsnews.com/article/wash...agements-china
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:33 PM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top