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Old 02-24-2020, 07:41 AM
 
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Her comments has nothing to do with one's political leanings and everything to do with the current administration statistically appearing to overreach with its position of what constitutes a true emergency requiring interlocutory relief at the Supreme Court level.

Apparently, this is now the 24th time that the Trump administration has asked the Supreme Court to put a lower court decision on hold in less than three years compared to a total of eight such requests during the 16 years of the George W. Bush and Obama administration's combined. Sotomayor's dissent - if you bother to read it - is really aimed at addressing that issue.

But I know that facts and analysis will take a back seat to neanderthals bashing liberal judges. So do carry on.
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Old 02-24-2020, 07:45 AM
 
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The justices are permitted to agree or disagree with their colleagues. Expressing concern does not equate to whining.

Why are you so bothered?
Yes - obviously there are plenty of disagreements.

This is whining.

"Her way" is objective and reasoned. Any other opinions are short shortsighted and political and lack objectivity.

Doesn't sound like an educated argument of the issued to me... it's just a bunch of big words that ultimately say "it's not fair".
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Old 02-24-2020, 07:51 AM
 
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Her comments has nothing to do with one's political leanings and everything to do with the current administration statistically appearing to overreach with its position of what constitutes a true emergency requiring interlocutory relief at the Supreme Court level.
Actually, Sotomayor's commentary doesn't do what you suggest. Since when is upholding a federal law (immigration regarding public charge) that pre-dates the Trump Admin by over a century "putting a thumb on the scale in favor of the Trump administration?"

Public Charge Provisions of Immigration Law: A Brief Historical Background - USCIS

Shame on Sotomayor for being so ignorant.
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Old 02-24-2020, 07:51 AM
 
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My father got into college, entered a white collar field and had a long and successful career in the federal government. He did all this before there was affirmative action. And, yes, he was a minority.
No, that was long before there was a notion of a "hispanic" minority group. Your father was NOT a minority.

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Old 02-24-2020, 08:00 AM
 
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Actually, Sotomayor's commentary doesn't do what you suggest. Since when is upholding a federal law (immigration regarding public charge) that pre-dates the Trump Admin by over a century "putting a thumb on the scale in favor of the Trump administration?"

Public Charge Provisions of Immigration Law: A Brief Historical Background - USCIS

Shame on Sotomayor for being so ignorant.
I find it ironic that you refer to "Sotomayor's commentary" and then go on to utterly invent and ascribe a quote to her that is found nowhere in her dissent to try to prove your point.

She says that, generally speaking, stay applications in general force the Supreme Court to consider issues that have not been fully litigated in the lower courts fully and thus "upend the normal appellate process, putting a thumb on the scale in favor of the party that won a stay." At that point in her dissent, she has moved on from discussing this particular case and is addressing the problematic nature of the Administration applying for - and the Supreme Court entertaining - a statistically outsized number of emergency applications for injunctive relief.

Here is a link to the the opinion, should you choose to actually educate yourself.

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Old 02-24-2020, 08:03 AM
 
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“I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn’t lived that life.â€
This is a woman who was born white, and admits that she didn't know she was a minority when she was growing up.

She became a "hispanic" minority in the 70s.

This country has no history of legally discriminating against or disenfranchising people of Spanish origin, yet they like to pretend that they broke through fictional barriers that never existed for them.
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Old 02-24-2020, 08:04 AM
 
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She is the worst. Once Republicans get the house back they should impeach her and other political hack judges.
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Old 02-24-2020, 08:08 AM
 
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Yes - obviously there are plenty of disagreements.

This is whining.

"Her way" is objective and reasoned. Any other opinions are short shortsighted and political and lack objectivity.

Doesn't sound like an educated argument of the issued to me... it's just a bunch of big words that ultimately say "it's not fair".
Smh. See the response below.


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I find it ironic that you refer to "Sotomayor's commentary" and then go on to utterly invent and ascribe a quote to her that is found nowhere in her dissent to try to prove your point.

She says that, generally speaking, stay applications in general force the Supreme Court to consider issues that have not been fully litigated in the lower courts fully in the lower courts and thus "upend the normal appellate process, putting a thumb on the scale in favor of the party that won a stay." At that point in her dissent, she has moved on from discussing this particular case and is addressing the problematic nature of the Administration applying for - and the Supreme Court entertaining - a statistically outsized number of emergency applications for injunctive relief.

Here is a link to the the opinion, should you choose to actually educate yourself.
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Old 02-24-2020, 08:37 AM
 
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I find it ironic that you refer to "Sotomayor's commentary" and then go on to utterly invent and ascribe a quote to her that is found nowhere in her dissent to try to prove your point.

She says that, generally speaking, stay applications in general force the Supreme Court to consider issues that have not been fully litigated in the lower courts fully and thus "upend the normal appellate process, putting a thumb on the scale in favor of the party that won a stay." At that point in her dissent, she has moved on from discussing this particular case and is addressing the problematic nature of the Administration applying for - and the Supreme Court entertaining - a statistically outsized number of emergency applications for injunctive relief.

Here is a link to the the opinion, should you choose to actually educate yourself.
Did you read it? She states that dependency on public assistance shouldn't be grounds for immigration inadmissability. She's wrong, of course, according to the law that was already in place more than a century before the Trump Admin.
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Old 02-24-2020, 08:38 AM
 
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Her comments has nothing to do with one's political leanings...
Yes they do.
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