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Old 07-30-2021, 11:11 AM
 
Location: Southeast US
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I look at deaths. We're doing pretty damn good considering damn near half our nation ain't vaccinated. I think it's because a much larger percentage of the most vulnerable are.
deaths, and if hospitalizations get too high. An increase in hospitalizations is meaningless.

90% of 65+ has a shot, 80% fully-vaxxed.

Whether the CDC page of simplified death/case count isn't loading or they removed it, it's not accessible right now But yes, the 65+ were like 80%+ of deaths at least through their opportunity to get vaxxed.

I have no doubt that the roughly 3% of the population that reflects unvaxxed 65+ are responsible for most of our current deaths still. It's just logical - if they were the most vulnerable group before, those that are still not vaxxed haven't changed their vulnerability at all.

 
Old 07-30-2021, 11:12 AM
 
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The first ball to drop on the vaccinated is they are just as contagious as the unvaccinated with Delta variant.
Is the next ball to drop the vaccinated are in more danger than the unvaccintated because the mRNA shot weakened their immune system when the vaccine starts waning, as some scientists believe? The more vaccinated get infected, the more this theory holds credence.
 
Old 07-30-2021, 11:14 AM
 
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Why should I get vaccinated with experimental mRNA gene therapy and put myself at risk for unknown long term side effects?
The news is reporting the vaccinated are just as l likely to spread Delta variant as the unvaccinated. DiBlasio wants all NYC city restaurants to ban customers who aren't vaccinated to punish the unvaccinated from doing enjoyable things so they get vaccinated, it has nothing to do with transmission. And who in turn will be hurt, not me, the restaurant owners. I'll stay in until Biden's anti-viral pill is available next year from big pharma.
The news is just reporting the death rate from covid in NYC is three a week on average, and half the place is unvaccinated!
For Eff's sake! Don't get the shots, and take your chances. Personally, I'll take my chances on the long term, as opposed to getting sick and dying from the virus.
 
Old 07-30-2021, 11:15 AM
 
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So it's as contagious as chickenpox for Vaccinated people, too. Let's be clear.
 
Old 07-30-2021, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Southeast US
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But an anecdotal story should not determine our behavior.
our collective behavior.

Hopefully anybody that knows that person that was unvaxxed GETS vaxxed.
 
Old 07-30-2021, 11:16 AM
 
Location: west central Georgia
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Wouldn't that mean by September we are approaching the end of the pandemic, in the sense of emergencies? Either by vaccination, or infection, the population is developing some level of immunity to the virus that will help make future infections less severe? Yes, I'm painfully aware of the cost to that. But it seems like the virus is determined to resist our efforts: our lockdowns, cloth masks, social distancing, and even vaccines (to the extent that it still transmits).
Good point.
 
Old 07-30-2021, 11:23 AM
 
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Ithis virus is relentless and it can affect you and yours in terrible ways, especially if you are not vaccinated.
Especially when those not vaccinated are forced to get the experimental "vaccine", get blood clots in the brains, maybe not immediately but at unexpected time for the rest of one's life.
 
Old 07-30-2021, 11:43 AM
 
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https://www.axios.com/covid-vaccines...89dbf673c.html

More than 1/2 unvaccinated live in households making less than 50 K. Article dated July 12th.
 
Old 07-30-2021, 11:52 AM
 
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Especially when those not vaccinated are forced to get the experimental "vaccine", get blood clots in the brains, maybe not immediately but at unexpected time for the rest of one's life.
Where are all the autopsy results of the suspected vaccinated-induced deaths since January 2021?
 
Old 07-30-2021, 11:53 AM
 
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“The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has described the Delta variant of the coronavirus as being as transmissible as chickenpox and cautioned it could cause severe disease, the Washington Post said, citing an internal CDC document.

The CDC report said that universal mask wearing is still needed to reduce transmission in addition to vaccines.“

https://www.reuters.com/business/hea...yt-2021-07-30/

The good news is that vaccines still help prevent severe disease. But it looks like masking and more closings could be in the near future, especially with Fall around the corner.
I saw that! Geez. I read today that a woman in my home town county lost her grandmother, mother and fiance within the last five days. The grandmother was the only one vaccinated. It's very sad.
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