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German ministers have reacted angrily following reports US president Donald Trump offered a German medical company “large sums of money” for exclusive rights to a Covid-19 vaccine.
“Germany is not for sale,” economy minister Peter Altmaier told broadcaster ARD, reacting to a front page report in Welt am Sonntag newspaper headlined “Trump vs Berlin”.
The newspaper reported Trump offered $1bn to Tübingen-based biopharmaceutical company CureVac to secure the vaccine “only for the United States”.
The German government was reportedly offering its own financial incentives for the vaccine to stay in the country.
The report prompted fury in Berlin. “German researchers are taking a leading role in developing medication and vaccines as part of global cooperation networks,” foreign minister Heiko Maas told the Funke Mediengruppe research network. “We cannot allow a situation where others want to exclusively acquire the results of their research,” said Maas, of the centre-left SPD.
“International co-operation is important now, not national self-interest,” said Erwin Rüddel, a conservative lawmaker on the German parliament’s health committee.
German ministers have reacted angrily following reports US president Donald Trump offered a German medical company “large sums of money” for exclusive rights to a Covid-19 vaccine.
“Germany is not for sale,” economy minister Peter Altmaier told broadcaster ARD, reacting to a front page report in Welt am Sonntag newspaper headlined “Trump vs Berlin”.
The newspaper reported Trump offered $1bn to Tübingen-based biopharmaceutical company CureVac to secure the vaccine “only for the United States”.
The German government was reportedly offering its own financial incentives for the vaccine to stay in the country.
The report prompted fury in Berlin. “German researchers are taking a leading role in developing medication and vaccines as part of global cooperation networks,” foreign minister Heiko Maas told the Funke Mediengruppe research network. “We cannot allow a situation where others want to exclusively acquire the results of their research,” said Maas, of the centre-left SPD.
“International co-operation is important now, not national self-interest,” said Erwin Rüddel, a conservative lawmaker on the German parliament’s health committee.
Trump would keep the vaccine exclusively for Americans, or would charge the rest of the world an exorbitant amount of money to have access to it. Because everything to Trump is all about money, money, money. Human lives? Eh, what do they matter when there's a buck to be made?
There are many going to bars laughing about the Coronavirus. If they get it, they spread it! Too many are not intelligent enough to comply.
So force them into the ovens for the good of the homeland right?
Again, it doesn't take much for you guys to out yourselves apparently.
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You can take extreme measures to prevent spread like they did in Wuhan or you can have a situation like they have in Italy where people are being refused medical treatment with the knowledge that they will die without it. You have to choose one or the other.
It isn't a question of ideology because covid-19 doesn't care whether or not you call it a Nazi.
This isn't Ebola, even worst case scenario we're not talking about something that is going to wipe out the country. Sorry guy, it's jut not a good enough excuse for authoritarianism. You might be fine with Trump becoming a dictator due to this excuse, but I'm not.
You might praise totalitarian governments for the seemingly effective way they mistreat their people, but I think that's worse than the virus itself. If a small percentage of the population is to die, they are to die, it's not enough to give in to authoritarianism.
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Of all the new headlines, it is the one from Switzerland which scares me the most.
Switzerland recorded 840 new cases of infection on Sunday, a rise that brought the national total to 2,200.
We are speaking about an extremely rich and small country. 840 in a single day.
Given how much larger the US is, and the health care of Switzerland is far better than the US, what will numbers per day look like very shortly in the US?
You had almost 400,000 hospitalizations with the flu for pneumonia/flu issues this 2019/2020 flu season. And the season isnt over. So wheres the panic? That number is courtesy of the CDC. Those hospitalizations dont include heart attacks, accidents, diabetic problems and a myriad of other diseases. Wheres the panic?
The Covid-19 cases will be on top of that. It will severely tax facilities.
Look at what was done differently in Hubei. They locked down the entire city of Wuhan to contain it as much as possible. We didn't do that now it is already in all 50 states.
WV is still negative.
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I noticed that the stock market stabilized from free fall while Gov. Cuomo is talking.
documentation please.
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Oh you can run the tests ok. But anyone testing negative will have to continuously return for testing to make sure they are still negative.
And the positives ? Well at a certain point you will have too many people infected and not enough manpower to track down each and every contact.
Isolation and crowd control has to be enforced now..mandated by the government.
And this is because entitled Americans have ignored the guidelines.
You have Spring Break partiers in FL/CA saying they don't care.
You have crowded malls, airports, bars, etc.
You have an infected man in KY that won't stay in his house so they had to put an armed guard outside the door.
Italy was at our numbers 14 days ago. Look where they are today.
We are headed down that very same path unless action is taken to limit crowd gathering.
And it's being done to prevent the medical community and hospital system from becoming overwhelmed with sick people. They don't want everyone catching it at the same time.
where am i going to get the personnel, equipment, and lab space to run these 5 million tests per week?
and that's just from thermofisher. roche has millions more.
why will everyone testing negative have to continuously return? i don't buy that.
Trump assured Americans at that February 26 news conference that the number of people infected in the United States is "going very substantially down, not up." .... "the 15, within a couple of days, is going to be down to close to zero."
Meh... What's your point?
He was wrong, saw he was wrong and has taken steps in the right direction.
This isn't Ebola, even worst case scenario we're not talking about something that is going to wipe out the country. Sorry guy, it's jut not a good enough excuse for authoritarianism. You might be fine with Trump becoming a dictator due to this excuse, but I'm not.
You might praise totalitarian governments for the seemingly effective way they mistreat their people, but I think that's worse than the virus itself. If a small percentage of the population is to die, they are to die, it's not enough to give in to authoritarianism.
I am not interested in having a "dictator" nor am I praising the existence of a totalitarian regime. But this discussion isn't about my political beliefs. I am simply pointing out that we have a binary choice: Flatten the curve by taking immediate and extreme protective measures or condemn a lot of people to die due to lack of health care facilities.
Of all the new headlines, it is the one from Switzerland which scares me the most.
Switzerland recorded 840 new cases of infection on Sunday, a rise that brought the national total to 2,200.
We are speaking about an extremely rich and small country. 840 in a single day.
Given how much larger the US is, and the health care of Switzerland is far better than the US, what will numbers per day look like very shortly in the US?
It has doubled twice a week for the past couple of weeks.
Double 3,000 about 10 times....... That's why everything is shut down.
Trump assured Americans at that February 26 news conference that the number of people infected in the United States is "going very substantially down, not up." .... "the 15, within a couple of days, is going to be down to close to zero."
Yikes. How's that been working out for Donny lately
Donald Trump isn't used to dealing with this type of problem. Unlike his political rivals, the playboy models he had sexual affairs with, government intelligence agencies, Donald Trump cannot simply insult coronavirus, call it "fake news," or pay off the pandemic.
This is Trump's first real crisis since taking office, and he is doing a terrible job. For the love of god, Donald Trump directly contradicted CDC, NIH, and WHO officials who said the death rate would be over 3X lower than what career public officials with PhDs said it would be. And Donald, quite literally, said he based his much lower death toll number on a "hunch."
Per usual, I feel so sorry for Trump supporters who have hitched their wagons to Donny's and are forced to continue to support this guy who they all know is a friggin' idiot.
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