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Old 03-14-2020, 09:39 AM
 
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Watching videos on healthcare.

From what I can gather, one of the problems with our healthcare system is the government doesn't use a master price list to give a set price for a treatment. The cost varies depending on your plan.
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Old 03-14-2020, 10:03 AM
 
Location: Rose capitol of Texas
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The most striking thing I notice is that when I look at Facebook pages of people in other countries
as compared to the U.S.-

I NEVER see GoFundMe medical posts in other countries that have universal healthcare. NEVER.
They are prevalent in the U.S. I think I see a GoFundMe request for something healthcare related
here in the U.S. every single day from someone.
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Old 03-14-2020, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Rose capitol of Texas
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Last year, I went to the dentist and I paid cash up front.

A week later, I started getting these weird bills in the mail.
I called the office, turns out their new computer system was
flagging me as having insurance. The random bills continued.

These bills were all over the place. Different amounts. It was
so strange. There was no explanation, no number to call. Just
random, expensive amounts due immediately. I had to call the
office about 5 times until they finally straightened out the coding
snag on their end.

I realized after reading thru them, that if I was covered by insurance
that I would have paid hundreds of dollars more out of pocket for
the same service. The system coded the amount due drastically
different for cash vs insurance. Something is definitely wrong
with the way we pay for medical and dental services in the U.S.
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Old 03-14-2020, 10:19 AM
 
Location: Central Florida
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ADHD meds are basically amphetamines, that's why. People do abuse them.
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Old 03-14-2020, 10:19 AM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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Originally Posted by Tylerrose View Post
Last year, I went to the dentist and I paid cash up front.

A week later, I started getting these weird bills in the mail.
I called the office, turns out their new computer system was
flagging me as having insurance. The random bills continued.

These bills were all over the place. Different amounts. It was
so strange. There was no explanation, no number to call. Just
random, expensive amounts due immediately. I had to call the
office about 5 times until they finally straightened out the coding
snag on their end.

I realized after reading thru them, that if I was covered by insurance
that I would have paid hundreds of dollars more out of pocket for
the same service. The system coded the amount due drastically
different for cash vs insurance. Something is definitely wrong
with the way we pay for medical and dental services in the U.S.
When big entities with massive money reserves start paying for something, that something get a lot lot lot more expensive.

This is why four years college tuition costs more than a nice house. This is also why our medical systems are charging ridiculous sums of money. If it's just down to one person to pay for it, they realize that $800 for a filling is a bit excessive. But if you can bill it to insurance, then $800 becomes standard.

On the surface, the solution would seem to be ditching the insurance company, setting up a Health Savings Account, just paying out of pocket for everything and paying the doctor/dentist/etc cash. The only trouble is that this doesn't account for the average hourly worker having a massive heart attack or cancer. Still, it's probably the right idea for minor trivial medical care.
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Old 03-14-2020, 11:10 AM
 
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The healtcare system does suck. It is the only retail/consumer industry where the consumer doesn't know the price of service until weeks after the service has been rendered. No other area in commerce operates that way. In the normal world, you have a price list and you can shop around BEFORE accepting the service.
Ooopsy; if normality is your benchmark than the "normal" world is free to shop around while not being in the least concerned with the cost and never seeing the bill.

The single outlier to normalcy among all the first world developed countries and a host of less developed is guess who?
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Old 03-14-2020, 11:13 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Tylerrose View Post
Last year, I went to the dentist and I paid cash up front.

A week later, I started getting these weird bills in the mail.
I called the office, turns out their new computer system was
flagging me as having insurance. The random bills continued.

These bills were all over the place. Different amounts. It was
so strange. There was no explanation, no number to call. Just
random, expensive amounts due immediately. I had to call the
office about 5 times until they finally straightened out the coding
snag on their end.

I realized after reading thru them, that if I was covered by insurance
that I would have paid hundreds of dollars more out of pocket for
the same service. The system coded the amount due drastically
different for cash vs insurance. Something is definitely wrong
with the way we pay for medical and dental services in the U.S.
Ya think?
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Old 03-14-2020, 11:14 AM
 
Location: East of the Burgh.
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A new law was passed saying that people who take ADHD meds have to visit a doctor every 3 months to get their meds.

Why does the healthcare system make people jump through hoops to get the stuff they need?

My mom says my insurance might not cover all the doctor visits, so we might have to pay for my meds out of pocket.

The American healthcare system is a joke.
Maybe because it is addictive as hell.
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Old 03-14-2020, 11:18 AM
 
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Maybe because it is addictive as hell.
Or maybe because the doctors can bill you for more script visits and they have friends in Washington.
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Old 03-14-2020, 12:40 PM
 
Location: East of the Burgh.
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Or maybe because the doctors can bill you for more script visits and they have friends in Washington.
With the advent of the opioid epidemic all controlled substances require a visit to the doctors office not necessarily an appointment, controlled substances cannot be called in to the pharmacy. I take Xanax occasionally for anxiety and I have to go to the office to pick up the script.
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