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Old 03-17-2020, 05:03 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Originally Posted by Threerun View Post
Try comparing those nice numbers to GDP. Spain's deficit relative to GDP is half of what ours is. Trump is certainly NOT conservative.

Try putting it in perspective. https://www.thebalance.com/us-deficit-by-year-3306306
trumps average deficit is still lower than Obama's average deficit of 1.06trillion including fy16 which was 1.4 trillion


the average deficit of Obama...1.06 trillion.....6 out of 8 years with trillion+ deficit, including his last full year FY16


deficits didn't drop under Obama....6 out of 8 years with trillion dollars deficits including his LAST YEAR

10/01/2009................................ 11,920,519,164,319.42
09/30/2010................................ 13,561,623,030,891.79
difference of 1,641,103,866,572............................1.6 trillion deficit fy10

10/01/2010.................................13,610,847,58 5,810.09
09/30/2011.................................14,790,340,32 8,557.15
1,179,492,742,747...........................1.17tr illion deficit fy11

09/30/2011................................ 14,790,340,328,557.15
09/28/2012................................ 16,066,241,407,385.89
1,275,901,078,828..........................1.27 trillion deficit fy12

10/01/2012.................................16,159,487,01 3,300.35
09/30/2013.................................16,738,183,52 6,697.32
578,696,513,397..............................578 billion deficit fy13......the only one of two full years under one trillion

10/01/2013................................. 16,747,478,675,335.18
09/30/2014................................. 17,824,071,380,733.82
1,076,592,705,398..............................1.0 7 trillion deficit fy14


10/01/2014................................. 17,824,071,380,733.82
09/30/2015................................. 18,150,617,666,484.33
326,546,285,750.51..............................32 6 billion deficit fy15...the second less than trillion



10/01/2015................................. 18,150,617,666,484.33
09/30/2016.................................19,573,444,71 3,936.79
1,422,827,047,452.46.............................. 1.42 trillion deficit fy16

source: US Treasury

 
Old 03-17-2020, 08:21 PM
 
Location: Florida
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He’s trying to buy up votes at the taxpayers’ expense.
So it seems.
 
Old 03-17-2020, 08:22 PM
 
Location: Florida
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trump is being conservative... yes he is opening up needed monies, but being smart about it
Trillion dollar bailout is your idea of conservatism?
 
Old 03-17-2020, 08:30 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Realizing the republicans are a whole lot like the democrats is a great first step.

Now you just need to realize how much the democrats are like republicans.
Decades ago George Wallace said there isn't a dime's worth of difference between the Republican and Democrat parties is still not out of date.
 
Old 03-17-2020, 08:55 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Decades ago George Wallace said there isn't a dime's worth of difference between the Republican and Democrat parties is still not out of date.
About once every 200 posts you make I agree with...this is the 1.
 
Old 03-17-2020, 08:59 PM
 
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trumps average deficit is still lower than Obama's average deficit of 1.06trillion including fy16 which was 1.4 trillion <snip for irrelevance>
So what you're telling us is that because President Obama did it, Trump should do it, too? He should follow Obama's lead on this? You agreed with Obama when he did that?
 
Old 03-17-2020, 09:34 PM
 
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About once every 200 posts you make I agree with...this is the 1.

 
Old 03-17-2020, 09:41 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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So what you're telling us is that because President Obama did it, Trump should do it, too? He should follow Obama's lead on this? You agreed with Obama when he did that?
no..a big no


I don't think there should EVER be bailouts... not by bush, not by Obama, and not by trump
 
Old 03-17-2020, 09:48 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Heard an economist today say one trillion dollars won't do it. We need at least FOUR trillion dollars. And if that sounds atrocious, think of the cost of a depression that will make 1929 pale in comparison. And remember, some of the "horrible" socialist programs like social security began during that depression.


When your house is on fire, you don't quibble over the cost of water to put it out.
 
Old 03-17-2020, 10:01 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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Trillion dollar bailout is your idea of conservatism?
Blue stimulus good

Red stimulus bad

Conservatives are being compassionate, helping others, saving lives, saving homes, saving families, saving employers, stimulating the economy during a crisis...what is your objection to this?

Conservatives must set aside their convictions to help fellow Americans in need.

As President Trump said earlier today, We must set aside partisan politics to beat this enemy.
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