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Old 03-20-2020, 11:52 AM
 
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At this point - if it drops in the USA (or elsewhere) it will be because of the measures taken - not in spite of them. You will be able to debate that for years.


Italy missed the chance for debate.



Regarding the boat - if 20% of exposed people get it, and 1% of them die, (7 out of 700) - then that's 700K dead in the USA (350Mx0.2x0.01)...in six weeks, not a year. And that doesn't mean it will end. It will just keep going, unless something changes. That would make it the most lethal cause of death in the USA, year after year.


So if you're right, we're crashing and burning for nothing. And if you're wrong - bad things are happening. I am a skeptic about just about everything - but data don't lie. We can hope the statistics are really, really wrong. Or we find a pill. Or summer ends it. All "hope" tho.



Other than blind luck and good hoping, ya got anything that says that's not the trajectory for Italy?
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Old 03-20-2020, 11:57 AM
 
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Yes, I agree (or at least I do at this point). Please read the following, and also please note the writer's credentials at the bottom.

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/...hip-death-rate
that was good read....
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Old 03-20-2020, 01:12 PM
 
Location: Boston
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somebody's got to say it, sabotaging the economy over 1,000 people dying of a flu is stupid.
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Old 03-21-2020, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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somebody's got to say it, sabotaging the economy over 1,000 people dying of a flu is stupid.
Well, Russian bots are saying it all over the social discussion boards like P&OC and others in their ongoing attempt to sow disinformation and disunity in America.
Which begs the question nobody has bothered to ask on this forum, "Why is Russia the only nation with none or negligible covid 19 virus cases?"
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Old 03-21-2020, 10:57 AM
 
Location: City Data Land
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It's another one of Trump's many wins! But of course because it's a negative event, he won't own it. It's only the good things he takes credit for.
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Old 03-21-2020, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Well, Russian bots are saying it all over the social discussion boards like P&OC and others in their ongoing attempt to sow disinformation and disunity in America.
Which begs the question nobody has bothered to ask on this forum, "Why is Russia the only nation with none or negligible covid 19 virus cases?"
Probably for the same reason the United States had no reported cases until Jan. 21. It takes time to start going crazy.
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Old 03-21-2020, 11:07 AM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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This is unprecedented. Entering a Bear Market (loss of 20% of stock value) in just 10 days where in the 2008 crash it took 200+ days and all over 116 Coronavirus deaths, 95% of which are among the elderly??????

Corona may be serious but to bring an entire economy down over 116 deaths in over a 1-month period is the definition of insanity IMHO. When this things starts to die out by summer the US economy will be in shambles at this rate. We will learn that Trump was right all along--it was the most gigantic hoax ever perpetrated on the US people.



You have to remember that the market is all about speculation.

Nobody knows what's going to happen, so what it's reacting to is the uncertainty.

They're no reacting to what HAS happened, as far as the number of sick and deaths go.

They're reacting to the fear and sensationalism over what COULD happen.

Everything being forced to shut down certainly isn't helping that either.
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Old 03-21-2020, 11:08 AM
 
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Probably for the same reason the United States had no reported cases until Jan. 21. It takes time to start going crazy.
It also takes testing! If people aren't being tested the numbers will be low. It's out there but nobody knows without TESTING. The more testing the higher the numbers. Simple math.
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Old 03-21-2020, 11:14 AM
 
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Well, Russian bots are saying it all over the social discussion boards like P&OC and others in their ongoing attempt to sow disinformation and disunity in America.
Which begs the question nobody has bothered to ask on this forum, "Why is Russia the only nation with none or negligible covid 19 virus cases?"

Probably because Putin executes them the moment they get diagnosed. Putin knows how to solve a crisis.
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Old 03-21-2020, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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The math is on my side.
I am using figures from Worldometer. I have been keeping records from Mar 3rd.
The rate of increase is now 29.6% per day over the last 10 days. Today seem to be a bit higher. I actually use 30%.
I will use 9,236 cases for today. That's the figure at this hour.



The figures now work out to 215,181 cases by Mar 31. Your challenge should be to prove me wrong.
WARNING: It's gonna be tough, because I am right


The liberals chided Trump when he said he thought the death rate was going to be less than 3.4%. Turned out he was right.
It's at 4% world wide, but only 1.6% in America.


My figures look right to me.

We haven't seen your work, but I would love to see it. Guesses do not count.


And all this is why I shorted the market on Mar 6th (DOG). My proclivity for crunching numbers, which served me so well in business, compelled me to start a spread sheet so that I can actually see what is happening. And I saw.
My short is up 40%.
1.6% should be regarded as alarmingly higher than the .02% of common flu.
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