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I am updated and speaking the truth. Young people don’t need to worry as much about serious complications as older people. Risk goes up with age. That’s a fact.
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Originally Posted by MissTerri
I stand by what I said, that they don’t need to worry as much as older people about serious complications. Calm down and read more carefully.
Why are high risk people pitting themselves in close contact with anyone everyday? Why are they not staying home. Most are retired and can stay home without risking going broke. That is idiotic.
Lower risk does not mean no risk. Two of our local cases are a couple who are both 35 years old - with small children. She ended up on a ventilator. They are part of a cluster infected at a church. One of the group, a 65 year old woman, has died.
Lower risk people may live with higher risk people. They need to stay home, too.
Not all who are in the older age groups are retired. Many are even doctors, nurses, and people providing other essential services.
Lower risk does not mean no risk. Two of our local cases are a couple who are both 35 years old - with small children. She ended up on a ventilator. They are part of a cluster infected at a church. One of the group, a 65 year old woman, has died.
Lower risk people may live with higher risk people. They need to stay home, too.
Not all who are in the older age groups are retired. Many are even doctors, nurses, and people providing other essential services.
I would not spend any more time with this poster, she is still claiming that young people have not been gathering in large groups. Apparently its not happening in her town (that she knows of) so that means it didn't happen anywhere else in the country. Those spring break stories we all saw is obviously fake news, when she was provided one by another posters she attempted to discredit the content because they happened to use a file photo. I guess she actually believes the college kids on spring break stayed in their rooms the entire week and never collected in large groups.
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My parents are both senior citizens and very much in denial, even though they both have pre-existing conditions, they refuse to stay at home per the CDC's guidance. My dad thinks its a hoax to attack President Trump, and he doesn't listen to Dr. Tony Fauci.
I tried talking some sense to them, but they simply won't listen.
I'm sorry to read this, you must be concerned. This has been the pattern for sure. From what I have seen the big issue with many seniors not listening to the advice is this entire "hoax to get the President" theory. There is a clear pattern between the behavior of Dems and Republicans with regard to staying home and concern over this pandemic.
Does it need to be pointed out that the President has been perfectly clear, once he finally understood the seriousness of the situation, about what people should be doing? Why would Trump be making these requests, and praising political enemies such as Governor Newsome of California for his lock down, if he really isn't all in on the plan to stay home? Why are some of his supporters, who have been literally bought into every single word he has uttered since entering the race, going against his very clear message now? The behavior and beliefs of people such as your parents is just so strange to me.
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One would like to think, that many in the older-and-wiser contingent have realized that mere life itself is less precious than quality of life. It isn't bullheaded ignorance or a diet of slanted news that muddles one's capacity to get with the official program. Rather, it is a weighing of pros and cons, and an active and conscious decision that maybe even for a highly vulnerable person - indeed, especially for such a person! - the proverbial medicine is worse than the illness.
Younger people might have children, spouses, or other relatives. Perhaps their own parents are still alive. There is a web of responsibilities. One can't unilaterally surrender, without causing cascade of grief and misfortune. But for those who have outlived their peers, who have no such relations and no web of responsibilities, the calculation of pros and cons is different.
One would like to think, that many in the older-and-wiser contingent have realized that mere life itself is less precious than quality of life. It isn't bullheaded ignorance or a diet of slanted news that muddles one's capacity to get with the official program. Rather, it is a weighing of pros and cons, and an active and conscious decision that maybe even for a highly vulnerable person - indeed, especially for such a person! - the proverbial medicine is worse than the illness.
Younger people might have children, spouses, or other relatives. Perhaps their own parents are still alive. There is a web of responsibilities. One can't unilaterally surrender, without causing cascade of grief and misfortune. But for those who have outlived their peers, who have no such relations and no web of responsibilities, the calculation of pros and cons is different.
However, when they get sick resources will be expended to treat them, and they put others at risk, not the least of whom are their own families and the health professionals who take care of them.
One would like to think, that many in the older-and-wiser contingent have realized that mere life itself is less precious than quality of life. It isn't bullheaded ignorance or a diet of slanted news that muddles one's capacity to get with the official program. Rather, it is a weighing of pros and cons, and an active and conscious decision that maybe even for a highly vulnerable person - indeed, especially for such a person! - the proverbial medicine is worse than the illness.
Younger people might have children, spouses, or other relatives. Perhaps their own parents are still alive. There is a web of responsibilities. One can't unilaterally surrender, without causing cascade of grief and misfortune. But for those who have outlived their peers, who have no such relations and no web of responsibilities, the calculation of pros and cons is different.
I read this post twice because it gave me something to think about. It was a well thought out response and I do see your point. Not that this was directed at me but I was referring to the large group who simply think the risk is overblown, some actually believe this whole thing is a media created hoax to "get Trump" despite Trump making it very very clear that the risk is very real and he wants us to stop gathering in groups and stay home.
We have a whole lot of these types of stories, many here still believe this is a media driven hoax or we should just go to stores and restaurants as the economy is more important than life and death which is unbelievable to me.
One would like to think, that many in the older-and-wiser contingent have realized that mere life itself is less precious than quality of life. .
General history does not bear out this conclusion. There is a VERY tiny percentage of people who, despite NO HOPE or hope of the worst possible qualify of life (slaves on ships) that ended it purposely. More recent examples include gulags and even the tens of millions who have experienced US Jails. Settlers in Jamestown or in Plymouth.....1/2 or more of them died. People didn't give up.
Can you provide some examples of where a decent percentage of a population intentionally ended it based on a lower quality of life? I don't think you can - but even if you stab in the dark, it certainly can't be compared to sitting home and watching netflix and reading books and going for walks. That's luxury compared to, for example, being shipwrecked or in starvation.
From the post above you seem to think this but can you provide a few examples so that I grasp what you may be talking about???
Overall, the South hasn't taken this coronavirus threat nearly as serious as the people in the north.
Very true. We don’t believe as much of the hype. While New Yorkers were hiding in their homes I went out for Mexican last night. Traffic is nearly normal, stores are mostly open and people are shopping. Some are wearing masks here but most people believe this to be a dangerous overreaction that is a huge threat to our economy. In fact many, myself included hold all those who started this hysteria in contempt.
Maybe the north should close the Mason Dixon line off too because we ain’t doin your crazy with you.
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