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Old 03-26-2020, 09:25 PM
 
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In order to reach the casualty total from the 9/11 attack, 100 people would need to die in NYC every day for the next 30 days! After 9/11, things were pretty much back to normal within a month. Within a year, the whole thing was almost forgotten (except on 9/11 anniversaries).

Draw your own conclusions.
Anyone who was in New York at the time will tell you that it was anything but “back to normal” within a month of 9/11. They were still pulling bodies out of rubble with much of Manhattan impassable. WTF are you talking about?

 
Old 03-26-2020, 09:27 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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In the final long run, would less people die if we developed herd immunity as quickly as possible by keeping older people under shelter-in-place and just let everyone else live normally and catch it and develop antibodies? If we keep everyone sheltered and can’t find an effective vaccine, this thing will go on for years in wave after wave. They are working on a vaccine, but even the normal flu vaccine is not universally effective. There is no guarantee they will ever find a vaccine, and even if they do, it is likely the virus will mutate. Maybe we need to get sick and develop our own natural vaccine? And yes, a number of people will die. But can it be argued that far fewer will ultimately die if we just live normally and let ourselves get sick, mostly recover, and create resistance to the next wave? They don’t seem to have nearly enough ventilators now, so what’s the difference?
That would only work if we agreed to pick the bodies off the sidewalk and throw them in dumpsters. And when a majority of adults are ill, who would care for the older people and children? It takes at least 60% of the population catching and becoming immune to create herd immunity and there's no guarantee that they would be immune for any period of time, influenza changes every year requiring a new vaccine be developed annually. If coronavirus mutates regularly you would never achieve herd immunity.
 
Old 03-26-2020, 09:29 PM
 
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Bernie Hosts Coronavirus Panel with Medical Experts


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj3begmFtoU
 
Old 03-26-2020, 09:30 PM
 
Location: Gaston, South Carolina
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Anyone who was in New York at the time will tell you that it was anything but “back to normal” within a month of 9/11. They were still pulling bodies out of rubble with much of Manhattan impassable. WTF are you talking about?
I was 650 miles away from NYC and it was nowhere near back to normal here a month later, a year later or even a decade later. If I hear a plane in a place I don't normally hear a place, my first thought is 9/11 I'm not sure who thinks anyone has forgotten it if they were alive and of age back then. But they probably post those asinine "Never forget" memes on Facebook every September 11th

 
Old 03-26-2020, 09:32 PM
 
Location: London
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Then why are all of these celebrities getting tested with little to no symptoms>
As it turns out, the rich and famous aren't subject to the same rules as the rest of us.
 
Old 03-26-2020, 09:37 PM
 
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Come to a hospital and you will see your post is ridiculous. People are dying because the healthcare system is made to handle automobile accidents, gunshots, flu, but it cannot handle the load of new admissions for some virus that came here overnight.

Don't be an armchair quarterback.

And for that we have completely destroyed the economy with no guarantee it will ever get back to normal.

There is chatter that it will peak in 2 to 3 weeks. I think we went way over the top with our response.
 
Old 03-26-2020, 09:39 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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As of this post 1,297 Americans have died from the corona virus, so we are already one third of the way there. That number is way lower than what the actual one really is thanks to our continued inability to provide the needed testing.
silly rambles thinks we lack a test to tell us that people are dead.

 
Old 03-26-2020, 09:42 PM
 
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Default Virus stimulus math...

Let's say this ends really bad with 20,000 US citizens dead.

With a $2 trillion stimulus package, that's $100 million spent per death.

I'm guessing our grandchildren will curse us.
 
Old 03-26-2020, 09:45 PM
 
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And when the final count is 18,000 in the US?
 
Old 03-26-2020, 09:46 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Originally Posted by Ellis Bell
Got a question since I'm already here ...

Did we have vaccines for swine, bird, h1n1 when they first arrived?
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Originally Posted by Chicano3000X View Post
Nope, just like with this one.
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Originally Posted by Ellis Bell View Post
Thank you ... I'd add additional comments, but I think people should be able to understand the obvious. Except in the case of my kids ...

And yes, on his opening comment. Will continue watching later, ty.
Snarky comments abound. But they only contain partial information.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-res...-pandemic.html


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Few young people had any existing immunity (as detected by antibody response) to the (H1N1)pdm09 virus, but nearly one-third of people over 60 years old had antibodies against this virus, likely from exposure to an older H1N1 virus earlier in their lives.
The vaccine was released in November 2009.
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