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If push comes to shove; whoever has the best chance of surviving with the help of the ventilator. Do you really think that the medical community is going to ask to see a patient's voter registration card or proof of citizenship or legality before deciding the treatment for them?
Your uncle Tim has a 65% chance of living
The illegal has a 75% chance of living
The illegal gets the ventilator and uncle Tim dies. He would have lived if the ventilator was available.
So somebody can invade this country, mooch off the government for years while not paying any taxes, and then when they get Coronavirus they receive lifesaving medical care at no cost to them while one of your family members dies alone in a tent out in the parking lot.....and you have no problem with this?
And let's say that we have an illegal immigrant who has been living and working here. Works hard, has a family, pays taxes and doesn't harm anyone. The we have a US born who is never interested in holding down a job, always on welfare, does drugs, steals for their habit and beats the wife and kids. The second guy still gets the ventilator without question?
Weird discussion. Illegals are about 3% of the total population (10.6/327.2). Treating them won't make a significant difference in the overall medical costs of dealing with this pandemic, and people with a conscience can then continue to sleep at night. (Note: getting a good night's rest helps your immune system.)
Weird discussion. Illegals are about 3% of the total population (10.6/327.2). Treating them won't make a significant difference in the overall medical costs of dealing with this pandemic, and people with a conscience can then continue to sleep at night. (Note: getting a good night's rest helps your immune system.)
It’s nothing more than a distraction to deflect from the daily ongoings........
Business as usual.
Weird discussion. Illegals are about 3% of the total population (10.6/327.2). Treating them won't make a significant difference in the overall medical costs of dealing with this pandemic, and people with a conscience can then continue to sleep at night. (Note: getting a good night's rest helps your immune system.)
Since you feel there are hardly any of them, certainly you will be ok with them getting priority over any registered Democrat?
Peripherally, I guess I can see where you’re coming from. There might be a time when prioritizing patients comes into play. I’m not a doctor, but I don’t think the Hippocratic Oath looks at any of that. And I doubt providers have access to, or care about immigration status. They’re always going to prioritize by need. The nature of our insurance will be the best guarantor of what you’d prefer.
You know, I think that this "illegals getting medical care when Americans are dying" will likely become an issue that will be raised and become VERY political. There's gotta be stats/data to be had re this in ERs/hospitals and public health departments. FOIA.
Weird discussion. Illegals are about 3% of the total population (10.6/327.2). Treating them won't make a significant difference in the overall medical costs of dealing with this pandemic, and people with a conscience can then continue to sleep at night. (Note: getting a good night's rest helps your immune system.)
You don't think another 10M people makes a "significant difference" in costs? Or capacity? Good grief, you must vote for a lot of Democrats.
and let's say that we have an illegal immigrant who has been living and working here. Works hard, has a family, pays taxes and doesn't harm anyone. The we have a us born who is never interested in holding down a job, always on welfare, does drugs, steals for their habit and beats the wife and kids. the second guy still gets the ventilator without question?
Yes! He is an American citizen.
Edit: NO, I would not give the ventilator to either of them.
Last edited by self-made; 03-29-2020 at 10:26 PM..
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