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This post, as defined by the OP, is about 1.5-2 million worse case deaths projected by a few models based on an assumption of doing nothing.
The CDC issued the “ guidelines”. The rest was left to the states.
Covid- 19 don’t care about politics.
Sorry, that's not what the post says. The post specifies that number, with social distancing". It's not based on the assumption of doing nothing. You added that in to bolster your argument.
"Many models had assumed 1.5-2 million people dead, even factoring in full social distancing. Various hysterics on this board were saying half the country would be wiped out."
This thread is about the models, and the policies based on those assumptions.
So if you believed the earlier stats of millions dead or hundreds of thousands dead, then the deviation between the current reality and the modeled predictions can be attributed to actions taken by Trump and his administration combined with the synergy of actions taken by state and local governments.
COVID-19 deaths per million-capita
California 10
National average 37
Governor Newsom was early and aggressive on stay-at-home and enforcing social distancing. At the same time, at the national level, Trump downplayed the threat for several weeks -- and many states followed his lead and delayed as well. His lack of leadership and refusal to prod the red states into issuing stay-at-home orders hurt the COVID response.
States with incomplete and half-hearted stay-at-home orders are only hurting themselves. Louisiana (125), Georgia (32), Indiana(26) and Florida (14) all have higher death rates than California.
If Trump had used the national bully pulpit as aggressively as Newsom, and got the whole nation to follow his lead, the national number likely would have been closer to 10 than to 37.
Yet you accept his help how interesting. You remind me of the hypocrites in illinois who spend all of their time bashing him then suddenly begging him for his help lol
Do you think any of us owe the Trump a ****ing thing? That's not how it works. It's his job to "help", and I'm guessing you aren't in favor of heaping praise on someone for doing their job. And I'm being very liberal with the meaning of doing and job.
Thing is we seem to have elected that kid from the Twilight Zone episode where everyone had to tell him what a good boy he is. It's a good life, indeed
Trump is a ridiculous fool. Anyone with common sense ignores the blathering that comes out of his mouth, beginning with "it's going to be down to close to zero" up to his latest babbling about hydroxychloroquine.
Trump hasn't done a damned thing to save anyone, in fact his early denials probably led to more deaths that we would have had, if we had started social distancing in earnest much earlier, as every epidemiologist recommended from the very beginning.
Fortunately we have some leaders out here in the heartland that have the leadership skills and the wisdom to guide us through this corona-virus disaster. We need one of them to be President, but of course that won't happen. Somewhere along the line, Americans decided to throw common sense out the window. It is why we have this idiot in the White House.
Many models had assumed 1.5-2 million people dead, even factoring in full social distancing. Various hysterics on this board were saying half the country would be wiped out.
But one strong, decisive leader stood up and said " not on my watch".
Like that u2 song
" one man come in the name of love,"
Donald John Trump
Any lives saved will be in spite of him, not because of him.
Do you think any of us owe the Trump a ****ing thing? That's not how it works. It's his job to "help", and I'm guessing you aren't in favor of heaping praise on someone for doing their job. And I'm being very liberal with the meaning of doing and job.
Thing is we seem to have elected that kid from the Twilight Zone episode where everyone had to tell him what a good boy he is. It's a good life, indeed
Never made the connection between that episode and Trump, but that is dead on. In more ways than one, Trump is indeed like a little boy that never grew up, that must NEVER be defied, that will ALWAYS get his way. Now!!! (stamps his foot).
Wasn't it the health experts who were feeding the numbers to Trump?
Trump was ignoring the available facts and saying what he wanted to say, mostly (it seems) to spin the stock market at first. He just told us all bald-faced lies, that didn't come from the health experts, but from between Trump's ears.
I think early on, Fauci was under a lot of pressure to not publicly contradict the president and his words were very diplomatically couched. He does clearly contradict Trump more often now, when necessary, and not in a mean spirited way. He doesn't attempt to cover Trump's lying narrative, he just speaks what he knows.
It is telling that Fauci has needed to obtain security, people have been threatening him. If Trump wasn't misleading so many Americans early on they wouldn't feel justified in threatening the voice of Truth.
Trump, for his part, is falling in line and being more honest most of the time. He can't deny reality as much as before, he's in the middle of a mess he was never equipped to handle and he needs to start publicly agreeing with the medical experts so they can do their jobs unhindered and he doesn't look so much like a buffoon.
Do you think any of us owe the Trump a ****ing thing? That's not how it works. It's his job to "help", and I'm guessing you aren't in favor of heaping praise on someone for doing their job. And I'm being very liberal with the meaning of doing and job.
Thing is we seem to have elected that kid from the Twilight Zone episode where everyone had to tell him what a good boy he is. It's a good life, indeed
Trump does his job unlike the democratic gov of Illinois
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