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Knowing more about the spread is helpful. When this all started, we though 20% of people ended up hospitalized and 2 or 3% died. That is absolutely terrifying for the medical community. Thankfully, it seems like it's a far smaller percentage who will need hospitalization and even less who will die.
At this point the death rate is still between 2-3% for confirmed cases in some states. Worldometers still shows US death toll of 6%. In some countries, the death rate is over 10%.
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Then why has Trump been peddling fake numbers, and why did he push for the lock-down?
Having said that, I thought the low death rate was common knowledge, but 0.25% is still 8 million Americans.
No, it's not. Take a calculator - multiply 320,000,000 x .25% - you get 800,000. Eight million would be potential deaths if the entire population developed the disease assuming current death rates of .025, or 2.5%. We'll never see eight million. I don't think we'll even see 800,000 - as I am hopeful with continued use of masks, social distancing, and improved treatment modalities the death toll will drop - and hopefully hospitalizations can be forestalled with earlier and more effective intervention.
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But as another poster up thread mentioned, I too am interested in the death rate for people who become ill with the virus. I think that's how it needs to be measured. Just like regular influenza. The death rate shouldn't count people who have it but never become symptomatic. They wouldn't measure the flu that way.
Thank you.
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You are absolutely right. I have been saying this for weeks and this is the first time I’ve seen someone else post about it. If you want to compare the Covid death rate to that of the flu, you cannot include asymptomatic cases of Covid, because they do not count asymptomatic cases of the flu. You have to compare same to same, otherwise the numbers are meaningless.
Thank you.
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I don't think the OP actually read the CDC link. He just posted the Horowitz article that included that CDC link and assumed it supported Horowitz' claim. Which it didn't. It was sort of random
But the bottom line is that the death rate is roughly 6% for those who have been tested. It probably means that if you are sick enough to have symptoms and get tested your risk of dying is way higher than those who get exposed and don't have symptoms.
Absolutely. Whoever has been posting these charts here and elsewhere doesn't know how to read them.
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If it ever is allowed to come out that the actual death count is easily less than half the declared count there will be crickets (i.e. silence) from the media that drove this panic.
For those who refuse to believe reported deaths, then use excess deaths. How do you account for those? Good articles on that issue, here:
So it looks like President Trump and Rush Limbaugh were right all along, while the so-called "Experts" at the WHO and the panic promoting mass media have been consistently and spectacularly wrong.
Inded... The media is doing it ON PURPOSE to try and run trump out of office... The dems want him to lose!!!!!
This is nowhere near as bad as the media is saying it is..... The numbers they tell you should not be trusted!!
Dont you remember they tried this in 2009 also with Swine Flu...... But this time they have a major agenda!! (1 is to knock Mr Trump out of office)
Yeah like almost 100K people dead in 12 weeks -- just like the flu right
How many died and were listed as dead due to Covid19, were dying already? Meaning would have died if they caught a common cold? How many were listed as Covid19 deaths that merely tested positive? I think there has been an over diagnosis, not unlike ADHD in the 80's and 90's.
I don't think the OP actually read the CDC link. He just posted the Horowitz article that included that CDC link and assumed it supported Horowitz' claim. Which it didn't. It was sort of random
Actually I did read it.
Want proof?
I posted the stats from the CDC's website yesterday in the Rhode Island forum.
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Explain the EXCESS DEATHS....
