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I'm sure the friends and families of the near 100,000 who have already died in this country might disagree.
How ridiculous.
Then I am sure that the friends and families of the children that have starved to death due to the global lockdowns will be happy you were willing to sacrifice them. (According to UNICEF.)
No one, and I mean no one on either side, should accuse the other side of murder.
Ruining the once record economy to take out a political opponent on the other hand...
The CDC just came out with a report that should be earth-shattering to the narrative of the political class, yet it will go into the thick pile of vital data and information about the virus that is not getting out to the public. For the first time, the CDC has attempted to offer a real estimate of the overall death rate for COVID-19, and under its most likely scenario, the number is 0.26%. Officials estimate a 0.4% fatality rate among those who are symptomatic and project a 35% rate of asymptomatic cases among those infected, which drops the overall infection fatality rate (IFR) to just 0.26% — almost exactly where Stanford researchers pegged it a month ago.
Until now, we have been ridiculed for thinking the death rate was that low, as opposed to the 3.4% estimate of the World Health Organization, which helped drive the panic and the lockdowns. Now the CDC is agreeing to the lower rate in plain ink.
Plus, ultimately we might find out that the IFR is even lower because numerous studies and hard counts of confined populations have shown a much higher percentage of asymptomaticcases. Simply adjusting for a 50% asymptomatic rate would drop their fatality rate to 0.2% – exactly the rate of fatality Dr. John Ionnidis of Stanford University projected.
More importantly, as I mentioned before, the overall death rate is meaningless because the numbers are so lopsided. Given that at least half of the deaths were in nursing homes, a back-of-the-envelope estimate would show that the infection fatality rate for non-nursing home residents would only be 0.1% or 1 in 1,000. And that includes people of all ages and all health statuses outside of nursing homes. Since nearly all of the deaths are those with comorbidities.
The CDC estimates the death rate from COVID-19 for those under 50 is 1 in 5,000 for those with symptoms, which would be 1 in 6,725 overall, but again, almost all those who die have specific comorbidities or underlying conditions. Those without them are more likely to die in a car accident. And schoolchildren, whose lives, mental health, and education we are destroying, are more likely to get struck by lightning.
As a numbers guy I love this analysis. So for far less than a 1% fatality rate -- we have shut down our economy, and stomped on freedom. We have shut schools, churches, restaurants, entertainment facilities, closed down professional sports, closed huge numbers of small businesses, many of which will not return. Just nearby to me, the playground where my son enjoys going, is chained up. Basketball courts are locked up. Nobody is out, doing anything, it's a ghost town.
Originally the purpose of the shut down was to "flatten the curve". But it seems to have morphed into something else entirely.
Then I am sure that the friends and families of the children that have starved to death due to the global lockdowns will be happy you were willing to sacrifice them. (According to UNICEF.)
No one, and I mean no one on either side, should accuse the other side of murder.
Ruining the once record economy to take out a political opponent on the other hand...
Once again, how are Democrats guilty of sabotaging our economy by doing what almost every modern country in the world is also doing? There are 3 countries that I know of that were extremely late in locking down the country -- Brazil, Russia, and Iran, and even in all 3 of those countries, they STILL LOCKED DOWN parts of the country.
This is the depths of Trumpette's delusion. Something that the entire world is in agreement on, is actually a plot to take down Trump b/c that's what's high on Portugal and New Zealand's priority list.
New (to me anyway) info on Covid 19 and MMR vaccination. It may be that we already have a vaccine!
As I had the virus at least once, and my Covid 19 IgG AB is positive, so I've enrolled into a related study.
Once again, how are Democrats guilty of sabotaging our economy by doing what almost every modern country in the world is also doing? There are 3 countries that I know of that were extremely late in locking down the country -- Brazil, Russia, and Iran, and even in all 3 of those countries, they STILL LOCKED DOWN parts of the country.
This is the depths of Trumpette's delusion. Something that the entire world is in agreement on, is actually a plot to take down Trump b/c that's what's high on Portugal and New Zealand's priority list.
Actually most countries did not do what we did. And I do not just mean Sweden.
The lockdowns in Germany, for example, were far less militant than here.
Japan, with its top-heavy elderly population of 125 million - mostly in urban centers - saw about 400 something COVID deaths, and they never even locked down. Neither did Taiwan.
Australia and New Zealand were largely succesfully because they strictly enforced a travel ban.
Sound familiar? I wonder if their citizens call their leaders "racist" or "xenophobe"...
No, our approach was much closer to authoritarian China's than the majority of countries. And it has created an economic catastrophe while empowering extreme-socialist politicians.
Let us hope the people send a robustly contrary message in November.
The CDC just came out with a report that should be earth-shattering to the narrative of the political class, yet it will go into the thick pile of vital data and information about the virus that is not getting out to the public. For the first time, the CDC has attempted to offer a real estimate of the overall death rate for COVID-19, and under its most likely scenario, the number is 0.26%. Officials estimate a 0.4% fatality rate among those who are symptomatic and project a 35% rate of asymptomatic cases among those infected, which drops the overall infection fatality rate (IFR) to just 0.26% — almost exactly where Stanford researchers pegged it a month ago.
Until now, we have been ridiculed for thinking the death rate was that low, as opposed to the 3.4% estimate of the World Health Organization, which helped drive the panic and the lockdowns. Now the CDC is agreeing to the lower rate in plain ink.
Plus, ultimately we might find out that the IFR is even lower because numerous studies and hard counts of confined populations have shown a much higher percentage of asymptomaticcases. Simply adjusting for a 50% asymptomatic rate would drop their fatality rate to 0.2% – exactly the rate of fatality Dr. John Ionnidis of Stanford University projected.
More importantly, as I mentioned before, the overall death rate is meaningless because the numbers are so lopsided. Given that at least half of the deaths were in nursing homes, a back-of-the-envelope estimate would show that the infection fatality rate for non-nursing home residents would only be 0.1% or 1 in 1,000. And that includes people of all ages and all health statuses outside of nursing homes. Since nearly all of the deaths are those with comorbidities.
The CDC estimates the death rate from COVID-19 for those under 50 is 1 in 5,000 for those with symptoms, which would be 1 in 6,725 overall, but again, almost all those who die have specific comorbidities or underlying conditions. Those without them are more likely to die in a car accident. And schoolchildren, whose lives, mental health, and education we are destroying, are more likely to get struck by lightning.
If you think almost 100,000 Americans, dead so far, is low, you have a strange set of values. These were living, breathing humans with families and loved ones. So, you can tilt the numbers anyway you want, but facts are facts, thousands of people are DEAD.
Actually most countries did not do what we did. And I do not just mean Sweden.
The lockdowns in Germany, for example, were far less militant than here.
Japan, with its top-heavy elderly population of 125 million - mostly in urban centers - saw about 400 something COVID deaths, and they never even locked down. Neither did Taiwan.
Australia and New Zealand were largely succesfully because they strictly enforced a travel ban.
Sound familiar? I wonder if their citizens call their leaders "racist" or "xenophobe"...
No, our approach was most closer to authoritarian China's than the majority of countries. And it has created an economic catastrophe while empowering extreme-socialist politicians.
Let us hope the people send a robustly contrary message in November.
VOTE REPUBLICAN.
Most countries had equal, if not more, "draconian" lockdowns than the US. You listed 4, and 3 of them were wrong.
Germany, Australia, and New Zealand were all under strict lockdowns -- bans on public gathering, closing all non-essential businesses, required social-distancing at least.
Japan is the only country you listed remotely close to bucking the global trend.
These are the lies you guys tell that show how partisan you need to be. You have to deny reality to sell the myth that Trump is not a giant idiot.
Most countries had equal, if not more, "draconian" lockdowns than the US. You listed 4, and 3 of them were wrong.
Germany, Australia, and New Zealand were all under strict lockdowns -- bans on public gathering, closing all non-essential businesses, required social-distancing at least.
Japan is the only country you listed remotely close to bucking the global trend.
These are the lies you guys tell that show how partisan you need to be. You have to deny reality to sell the myth that Trump is not a giant idiot.
Countries of the world broken down by their lockdown.
Sorry but your own graph from the report contradicts your point. It shows Germany as one of the least severe. Anyone can click on the link and view it.
But this does bring up a good point: The Left (IE Democrats and the media) are acting as if the lockdowns are an established science, and anyone who thinks ruining the economy and people's livelihoods is not worth it, is an anti-science nut.
But the fact of the matter is we have never, ever used this technique to combat a virus before. There is no precedent in science, or even human behavior whatsoever.
The established science is herd immunity. You have 60-70% of your more healthy population contract the virus while protecting the elderly and people with underlying health conditions.
Instead, we departed from this approach based on faulty modeling and a panic-inducing media.
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