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Not murder. Possibly involuntary homicide. To suggest murder is dumb. You think he was trying to kill this guy to get all this publicity and attention?
Maybe you should look up the definition of murder 1, murder 2 and murder 3 and come back when you figure out how wrong you are.
What property did the armed protesters destroy? Many people are saying that these businesses have insurance. But most insurance policies don’t cover damage from riots.
Riot, civil commotion, and vandalism are covered perils under virtually all commercial property policies. They are covered causes of loss under both named perils and "all risk" policies. Carl's building and restaurant property are insured under an "all risk" policy.
If this post is an example of how Trump Supporters are going to approach this, then I expect the riots to continue. If this video cannot stop the victim-blaming and scapegoating that white media loves to do then it will continue.
Just go read the Aubrey thread on this forum and imagine what black folk see when 2/3rd of the post say Aubrey deserved to be hunted down and shot like a dog.
I see no end to this anger, even after the riots end, it won't be over.
Trump haters will loot over anything. Cop kills white dude, ho him. No media. Cop kills black, let’s go get a flatscreen!
Pay attention to green_ mariner .... this is not about a bad cop in Minneapolis or any other city.
It’s a planned War .... it’s also a Political War.
And you would be incorrect. Do we really want our protestors to be "civil" in the face of carnage against the black males of this nation. I for one would like to know about it.
There's no way you could watch the video of what happened and understand what you are seeing, and believe that the cause of death was not due to what the officer was doing.
This isn't a smart battle to attempt to fight. You aren't going to win this. This was a case of outright murder, no other way to see it.
Wrong. This is not outright murder. You’re no judge and jury. With murder there is intent. You think this cop was trying to kill this guy? Proof?
That cop effectively employed a technique that is banned in nearly every jurisdiction in the US and most civilized countries.
It's no longer taught at "police academies" (an oxymoron) but some States allow private training and it's taught at a few universities, technical and vocational schools.
And cops teach it to other cops anyway.
Originally, it was called the "choke hold" but after years of public outrage and thoughts from the medical community it was given a politically correct name like "non-violent disablement" then later banned.
You use your forearm and baton or tonfa or you use your bicep and forearm to collapse both sides of the neck.
Depending on a person's physiology and health, they'll be rendered unconscious in 5-7 seconds.
A football player or someone with a particularly thick neck might last 9 seconds or even 11 seconds.
The problem is some people rendered unconscious die; others are left in a permanent vegetative state; and others suffer effects tantamount to a hemorrhagic stroke.
Unfortunately, you cannot know beforehand what will actually happen just by looking at a person.
Whether Floyd could breath or not doesn't matter, because people with anxiety/panic attacks think they can't breathe, too. They can breathe, but they think they cannot and that's all that matters because that's what triggers the flood of hormones and enzymes in the brain and certain other organs.
Floyd was handcuffed and not going anywhere and the cop should have shifted to a knee in the back between the shoulder blades to keep Floyd pinned down if it was actually necessary to pin him down.
All I have to say to those cops is thanks a helluva lot because I was out and about last night and had to literally run for my life with the riots shutting down I-75 and tearing up Over-the-Rhine where I live.
Now we have a 10:00 PM and I can't do squat.
According to one article:
"In Minneapolis, kneeling on a suspect’s neck is allowed under the department’s use-of-force policy for officers who have received training in how to compress a neck without applying direct pressure to the airway. It is considered a “non-deadly force option,” according to the department’s policy handbook."
"In Minneapolis, kneeling on a suspect’s neck is allowed under the department’s use-of-force policy for officers who have received training in how to compress a neck without applying direct pressure to the airway. It is considered a “non-deadly force option,” according to the department’s policy handbook."
I know it's bogus because I've choked people out before and I've been choked out before. I know what it feels like to have my knee on someone's throat, and I know what it feels like to have a knee on my throat.
When you keep your knee on someone's throat for over 8 minutes, over 2 minutes beyond the time they go limp, you are trying to kill them. Period.
If you disagree with that, volunteer to get down on the ground in handcuffs and have someone kneel on your neck. You'll come around quickly.....assuming they get off of you before you die.
Not guilty of murder. No proof. Prosecutors better get their sheet straight.
That cop effectively employed a technique that is banned in nearly every jurisdiction in the US and most civilized countries.
It's no longer taught at "police academies" (an oxymoron) but some States allow private training and it's taught at a few universities, technical and vocational schools.
And cops teach it to other cops anyway.
Originally, it was called the "choke hold" but after years of public outrage and thoughts from the medical community it was given a politically correct name like "non-violent disablement" then later banned.
You use your forearm and baton or tonfa or you use your bicep and forearm to collapse both sides of the neck.
Depending on a person's physiology and health, they'll be rendered unconscious in 5-7 seconds.
A football player or someone with a particularly thick neck might last 9 seconds or even 11 seconds.
The problem is some people rendered unconscious die; others are left in a permanent vegetative state; and others suffer effects tantamount to a hemorrhagic stroke.
Unfortunately, you cannot know beforehand what will actually happen just by looking at a person.
Whether Floyd could breath or not doesn't matter, because people with anxiety/panic attacks think they can't breathe, too. They can breathe, but they think they cannot and that's all that matters because that's what triggers the flood of hormones and enzymes in the brain and certain other organs.
Floyd was handcuffed and not going anywhere and the cop should have shifted to a knee in the back between the shoulder blades to keep Floyd pinned down if it was actually necessary to pin him down.
All I have to say to those cops is thanks a helluva lot because I was out and about last night and had to literally run for my life with the riots shutting down I-75 and tearing up Over-the-Rhine where I live.
Now we have a 10:00 PM and I can't do squat.
Hopefully this will put the "if he could talk, he could breathe" argument to rest.
But I doubt it will.
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