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Old 05-30-2020, 08:39 AM
 
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It’s not a “ temper tantrum” when it’s ONLY Black Cities and neighborhoods that are destroyed. They looted and Burned a Federal Post Office in Minneapolis last night, broke into more liquor stores, attacked a bank. No police or National Guard in Minneapolis .... they pulled back to save St Paul.
Well....I mean, yeah, you can't expect this kind of thing to be allowed to happen in places where there are nice things and competent leadership. There's no conspiracy, it's just that a certain type of leader allows their city to be destroyed by rioters and certain kinds of places elect those kinds of leaders.

When you have an Antifa Mayor like Portland, of course the riots are going to get out of hand, compare that to Houston who had riot police and mounted units out cracking skulls with snipers on rooftops. They are both examples of cities run by Democrats, it's just that Sylvester Turner for all his flaws isn't weak like Ted Wheeler or Jacob Frey.

Hell and George Floyd is not only from Houston, but he was known as Big Floyd when he was part of the legendary Screwed Up Click. If anywhere has a reason to riot over this, it's Houston....but Houston has fairly solid leadership despite the fact that they are Democrats so I don't expect it to ever get out of hand here. Hell they arrested over 200 people yesterday and all you had was a couple cars vandalized and a few windows shattered.

 
Old 05-30-2020, 08:43 AM
 
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Except science and expert opinion....
Your interpretation is inaccurate, the science of what happens when you kneel on someone's neck for that length of time goes against the narrative you are pushing. I think you'll find that when there is a 2nd opinion given by experts, you'll want to dismiss what they are saying entirely, so it doesn't benefit to try and go this route now only to have to backtrack later.

If you've ever choked someone out before, or had it done to you, then you'd know more about the situation. There's no excuse for keeping your knee in someone's throat for several minutes after they go limp. The ONLY reason you'd do that is to kill them.
 
Old 05-30-2020, 08:55 AM
 
Location: The State Of California
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And YOUR professional expedience in handing suspected criminals is what?
Elementary School Graduate.....
 
Old 05-30-2020, 08:55 AM
 
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Even if this were true, the cops would still be guilty of excessive use of force, negligence/depraved indifference etc


That's enough for a manslaughter conviction at the minimum.
I imagine this is how it will turn out. Excessive use of force to convict of manslaughter. He may even plead it to save a trial. Animals will riot though.
 
Old 05-30-2020, 08:58 AM
 
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Your interpretation is inaccurate, the science of what happens when you kneel on someone's neck for that length of time goes against the narrative you are pushing. I think you'll find that when there is a 2nd opinion given by experts, you'll want to dismiss what they are saying entirely, so it doesn't benefit to try and go this route now only to have to backtrack later.

If you've ever choked someone out before, or had it done to you, then you'd know more about the situation. There's no excuse for keeping your knee in someone's throat for several minutes after they go limp. The ONLY reason you'd do that is to kill them.
What you or I say does not matter, only what can be proven in court. The defense already has enough to prevent any charge related to intent to kill.. It's over.

How many years can he get for violating this man's civil rights because I can see that working for sure.
 
Old 05-30-2020, 09:03 AM
 
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What you or I say does not matter, only what can be proven in court. The defense already has enough to prevent any charge related to intent to kill.. It's over.

How many years can he get for violating this man's civil rights because I can see that working for sure.
That's a very short sighted view.

First of all, they don't have to prove intent to kill for a 3rd degree murder charge, secondly, anyone who watches the video of him continuing to kneel on his neck for minutes after he goes limp will disagree that there wasn't intent to kill.

609.195 MURDER IN THE THIRD DEGREE.
(a) Whoever, without intent to effect the death of any person, causes the death of another by perpetrating an act eminently dangerous to others and evincing a depraved mind, without regard for human life, is guilty of murder in the third degree and may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than 25 years.

Your guy is almost certain to catch 25 years and he should count himself lucky that he isn't getting charged with murder in the 2nd degree.
 
Old 05-30-2020, 09:10 AM
 
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Good grief — CNN reporter is telling Wolf Blitzer that white supremacists are using social media to
whip up people to riot.....
 
Old 05-30-2020, 09:15 AM
 
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When was the last time a white guy said to a cop, "I can't breathe"?
When CNN would show a video of a white guy killed by cops unjustly. Which is never. It doesn’t fit their narrative.
 
Old 05-30-2020, 09:18 AM
 
Location: The State Of California
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You can block the carotid artery in the neck without causing strangulation.

Death can result in minutes from blocking blood flow to the brain.

Panic and stress from feeling like he's being strangled probably raised his heart rate and blood pressure to dangerous levels.

Just because he didn't die of asphyxiation doesn't mean that kneeling on his neck for eight minutes didn't kill him.

That cop killed George Floyd, no matter what the clinical cause of death was.

Finally A Adult just entered the room!!!
 
Old 05-30-2020, 09:20 AM
 
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Dear god, I was not prepared for that

For over three minutes, that man pleaded with the police officer that he could not breath, as the cop holds a knee on his neck.

Is that not murder? I don't even care whatever it was that man did before the video starts. He is already handcuffed and being held flat on the ground with two cops on top of him. He is no longer a threat to anyone.
I do not know if this guy was spitting at the police or not. DO YOU? If he was handcuffs or not he could not be allowed to do it and maybe holding his lips to the ground was the quickest way to stop him.....
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