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I was raised around republicans and my initial political stance was that way. However, I had become disillusioned with the party on it's fiscal conservation hypocrisy, warmongering and blind eye to DoD wastefulness, stance on drugs, and the stupid border wall.
The last few months have really changed my stance with the coronavirus response and the recent protests. With coronavirus, the democratic led states have refused to loosen their control despite the overwhelming evidence that the virus is not at all the threat predicted when the shutdown started and they've used the economic carnage to justify MASSIVE redistribution of funds, to groups that they want funds directed at.
With the recent protests, I'm flat out disgusted how the left has responded, justifying the anarchy and wreckage and completely ignoring any injustices aside from their soapbox of black oppression. Growing up in a pretty well diversified group of friends and acquaintances, their laundry list of "prejudice" just does not match my experience in life. Before I may have been sympathetic to a historical plight of injustice. Now, I realize articles like this are just tools to divide people, keep them in this pigeonhole mentality of being "the victim" or "the oppressor" and using minorities as pawns to accomplish their own agenda. The inclusiveness of the left is hypocrisy, they are more hostile towards anyone not like them or who does not think like them than the good ole boys of the GOP ever were.
I still think republicans are dumb and Trump is an idiot, but I'm absolutely terrified of what the "progressive" lefts agenda is. As of now, I'm planning to vote R on my ballot.
Biden is a moderate. I won't vote for extremists, so he has my vote.
Biden doesn’t have a massive ego and will delegate if he has to.
That alone makes him the better leader.
We also have to bring back respect for the USA which we’ve jettisoned with the current clown.
We also need to restore competency in government (most competent people don’t want to work for this one).
And we need to restore what civility we can.
For those reasons, Trump is out.
Biden would have no choice but to delegate. He seems to no longer have the cognitive ability to make decisions on his own. To be brutally honest, I doubt that he would complete his first term. I’m still befuddled at how the left went from decrying rich old white men as the epitome of evil to nominating a rich man who is older than any previous candidate and whiter than mayonnaise. I hope his handlers pick a decent veep, because I’m fairly sure that’s who would be running things by 2024 assuming Biden wins.
I think you confuse “respect” and “like”. Other countries liked the USA under previous administrations because we were doing their dirty work and allowing them to bend us over a barrel. They haven’t respected us since Reagan left office.
The problem in D.C. isn’t a lack of competence, it’s a lack of unity. One can blame that on Trump, Pelosi, mainstream media, or the Easter Bunny, but the truth is everyone is at fault (maybe not the Easter Bunny). Everyone, including the voters who have allowed our politicians (on both sides) to act like a bunch of spoiled children, is to blame for the current situation in D.C.
Were you just as upset about the lack of civility when Obama made his derisive remarks about guns and religion or Hillary called half the country deplorable, or did it only start to trigger you when Trump said mean things? I realize that comes across snarky, but it’s late and my brain isn’t coming up with an alternative way to ask the question. I’m genuinely curious.
I’m not predicting who will win, because 2020 is a train wreck. At this point, I’m only about 70% sure that we will make it to November without some sort of insurrection, alien invasion, or an open attempt at a coup (it can be argued that there have already been a couple of poorly hidden coup attempts). I don’t believe that either candidate is what we need in the office, but to paraphrase a corny comic book line, both are probably what we deserve.
After watching the GOP defend everything Trump does, I could never ever vote Republican. He could bomb a town and they'd find an excuse for it.
That's what I thought previously. I thought this guy has hijacked the party and he's so unlikable he will hasten the GOP demise as old people die in nursing homes. The thing is though, the progressives have hijacked the Dem party as well... though Biden won over Bernie, the fact that it's Bernie and not Bullock in the 2nd place is telling. Bernie could not have went this far in 2000, so the edges have shifted. The Democratic party should have been able to pull a continual victory over the GOP if they would stick to their center leaning platform, but that's not what is playing out.
My beef with Democrats is that these days they are authoritarian extremists that are engaging in an active campaign to harm the country as much as possible in order to gain political power.....so I could never vote for a Democrat unless major things change.
At the same time, I could never vote for Trump. I do admit that he's the "lesser of two evils", but that would still put me in a position of voting for an admitted "evil" which is something I just refuse to do ever again.
I'm getting to the point where I don't even care which scumbag wins. The people keep voting for this trash, so they deserve exactly what they are getting and worse.
The last few months have really changed my stance with the coronavirus response and the recent protests. With coronavirus, the democratic led states have refused to loosen their control
I don't know what you have been reading, but ALL States have loosened their restrictions. Parts of Florida and Ohio are still heavily restricted, and they are Republican States
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they've used the economic carnage to justify MASSIVE redistribution of funds, to groups that they want funds directed at.
Again, not sure where you get your info, but the president asked for the massive bailout, the GOP Senate OK'd as did the Dem House, and then Trump handed out the checks with his name on them, and even people who didn't even lose their jobs received these hand-outs.
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With the recent protests, I'm flat out disgusted how the left has responded, justifying the anarchy and wreckage and completely ignoring any injustices aside from their soapbox of black oppression.
No one is doing justifying wreckage. Who told you that?
You are a good example of how propaganda works on people who won't seek out the truth.
Personally I am not voting at all. The country will move forward despite of bad presidents.
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Both parties are marching to the fringes. In 2020 the Dems started racing left. The GOP is still marching rightward but looks less insane ATM. This may change if Trump loses this fall.
1) Condoning looting. Yes I know Biden did not do it directly but you have enough local level people doing it to cast the party that way.
2) Stimulus for illegals in CA and talking about it elsewhere. Are you kidding me?
3) Insisting my daughter has to do track next year against boys who say they are girls. As long as there are stalls and can pass as whatever you say you are, you crap wherever you want but keep me out of it and dont scare my wife and daughter with some 6'5 hairy dude showing up in the womens room.
4) All the white ANTIFA trash showing up at the riots. Yes I know most are technically not D but they still cast a shadow.
5) Looting. The second you have someone elses TV in your hand, your opinion on G Floyd is worth less than nothing.
6) Cutting LA cops budget? cutting cop budget in other violent places. New "hold my beer." level of stupidity.
I was raised around republicans and my initial political stance was that way. However, I had become disillusioned with the party on it's fiscal conservation hypocrisy, warmongering and blind eye to DoD wastefulness, stance on drugs, and the stupid border wall.
The last few months have really changed my stance with the coronavirus response and the recent protests. With coronavirus, the democratic led states have refused to loosen their control despite the overwhelming evidence that the virus is not at all the threat predicted when the shutdown started and they've used the economic carnage to justify MASSIVE redistribution of funds, to groups that they want funds directed at.
With the recent protests, I'm flat out disgusted how the left has responded, justifying the anarchy and wreckage and completely ignoring any injustices aside from their soapbox of black oppression. Growing up in a pretty well diversified group of friends and acquaintances, their laundry list of "prejudice" just does not match my experience in life. Before I may have been sympathetic to a historical plight of injustice. Now, I realize articles like this are just tools to divide people, keep them in this pigeonhole mentality of being "the victim" or "the oppressor" and using minorities as pawns to accomplish their own agenda. The inclusiveness of the left is hypocrisy, they are more hostile towards anyone not like them or who does not think like them than the good ole boys of the GOP ever were.
I still think republicans are dumb and Trump is an idiot, but I'm absolutely terrified of what the "progressive" lefts agenda is. As of now, I'm planning to vote R on my ballot.
I agree with most of your points here, but I don't think a border wall is stupid. I still consider myself center with a slight left lean. I too am terrified of what the progressive left agenda is. I will probably vote R because the democrats have just abandoned common sense and the left side of the party is growing too large. There hasn't been enough "normal" democrats pushing back against this nonsense.
This push to defund the police I'm seeing starting to get some traction is really scary to me. Hopefully common sense will kick in and that crap will go away. I'm hoping it's just outrage at the current situation. Again, I hope common sense prevails here.
Everytime freedom is expanded in society, it's always conservatives that accept the new freedom last.
The left don't seek to expand freedom, they seek to eliminate it. Freedom is the opposite of the authoritarian socialist utopia they seek to usher in.
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