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Its just a flag right, a piece of cloth. Could somebody here please explain what is so damned offensive about a piece of cloth? Describe in detail if you can.
Its just a flag right, a piece of cloth. Could somebody here please explain what is so damned offensive about a piece of cloth? Describe in detail if you can.
I see nothing wrong with it.
Then there should be no ruckus over NASCAR making this decision. It’s just cloth. It’s NASCAR’s right to prohibit it.
Its just a flag right, a piece of cloth. Could somebody here please explain what is so damned offensive about a piece of cloth? Describe in detail if you can.
I see nothing wrong with it.
There are several reasons why someone may be offended by that flag.
1) It represented the states that at that time heavily supported states. The northern states were not saints in any way as far as race goes either but one of the reasons for the war was slavery along with state and property rights.
2) These symbols were revived in the 1950s and 60s just in time for the Civil Rights Movement which was seen as intimidation.
3) Some people are offended by it because it represents a dark time in US History that resulted in our deadliest war in US History and resulted in family and friends fighting against eachother. Others see it as a sign of treason and a way to separate the Union.
Another country that was born out of oppression and hatred for another race (or races) was Nazi Germany. Do we commonly see Nazi flags flying at soccer games there? No. And it is immediately associated with a symbol of hate - because it is and has been since its inception.
No one "let the flag become of symbol of evil." It was born as a symbol of evil; oppression of other races.
The Confederates committed treason in the name of maintaining slavery. Why should that non-existent country be celebrated in any way?
You don't see Nazi flags in Germany, either. If you run a swastika up a flagpole in Germany, you go to jail for a couple of years, mandatory.
The Germans learned from their mistakes. The rednecks, not so much...
The flag can represent two completely different things. To many, it recognizes history, ancestry, memories. To others, it can represent hate, oppression and slavery. None of us can claim what it means to everyone or to any one individual. Only each person knows what is in their heart.
In my opinion this move was made for two reasons. First - Every corporation is in fear of being called out for not doing something, so this is them doing something. Second - They have a diversity program. They have been trying to bring up POC through the ranks. More diversity equals more viewers. They do not want to have something that will put off potential drivers & fans. This was the perfect opportunity to make that final change.
Its just a flag right, a piece of cloth. Could somebody here please explain what is so damned offensive about a piece of cloth? Describe in detail if you can.
I see nothing wrong with it.
Probably because you can unify people with a flag. Its why we are encouraged to; stand, put our hand over our heart, turn and face a piece of cloth, and pledge to adhere to certain ideals. Long after the Civil War the Confederate flag was used to unified some people whose ideals were in opposition to American and Christian values.
IMO it's a little like what happened to Rap music. At one time it was dominated by artist like Blowfly, who was a comedian, the Last Poets ,who were social activists and Run DMC and the Sugar Hill Gang who were party guys. Today Rap is almost exclusively associated with black gangs and thug life. One it crossed that line there was no going back.
Its just a flag right, a piece of cloth. Could somebody here please explain what is so damned offensive about a piece of cloth? Describe in detail if you can.
I see nothing wrong with it.
So do you feel the same way about the American flag or Nazi flags, just a piece of cloth.
It is symbolic of slavery same as the statues celebrating confederate leaders.
The confederate flag is a seditious flag. Not that it bothers me when I see people flying it, but I'm confused that most of the people who do fly it consider themselves loyal, patriotic Americans. Because the flag is a symbol of sedition, the confederate fought against the concept of a 'United States of America.' So people who fly the confederate flag should be treated no different from people who fly the al-Qaeda flag.
I have also thought the same when I saw it.... Grew up in the south and oddly enough no one can adequately answer when posed with such a question.
Most just say it is a show of "Southern Pride". Okay... fine.. I've met people that say the Nazi flag wasn't about genocide but about Aryan pride.
It doesn't matter what it means to you individually. People are more than welcome to hang the flag in your home. It does matter what it means to other people when displayed publicly... just like what you say in public has consequences.
While I agree with a previous post that the real reason for the Civil war was one based in succession and economics, both the North and South sold it to the wider public as a fight over slavery. So the perceptions are based on that... North being anti-slavery and South being pro-slavery. Both the Northern AND Southern politicians of that time take responsibility for associating that flag as a symbol of racism.... not those that take offense to it today.
Go out to a straight man in public and say "He looks gay.", he most likely would take it in the wrong manner. Prior to the 1960s it would be a compliment. Perceptions are everything and what you say (display) in public is important with consequences. Society of the 1960s take responsibility with the redefining of the word "gay".... those that take offense to it today are not the ones to be blamed.
You don't get to define the context... perceptions do.
So do you feel the same way about the American flag or Nazi flags, just a piece of cloth.
It is symbolic of slavery same as the statues celebrating confederate leaders.
Good point.
Many people have their panties in a bunch when they pretend NFL kneelers are protesting that American... cloth.
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