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Old 06-23-2020, 05:20 PM
 
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I cannot for the life of me fathom how dumb the left is. People are finally realizing what an awful leader Trump is and many in his own party are finally turning on him. You have the Teflon President on the ropes. Usually in times of a national crisis, a president's approval rating rises, Trumps has been dropping. He bungled the Coronavirus response and made no attempt at all to unify the country after George Floyd.

So what does the left do? They refuse to crack down on rioting, looting, burning cities, autonomous zones, statues being defaced and destroyed and they support defunding or abolishing the police.

So instead of Trump versus a moderate, we get Trump versus anarchy and lawlessness.
I'm not saying the left is responsible for this but they DO OWN IT because it is the far left wing of their party that they are not speaking out against and stopping.

All Trump has to do now is run campaign ads with burning cities, statues being toppled, police standing down and scenes from CHAZ/CHOP.

I would GUESS that the calculus from the left here is that any chaos up until election day is a good thing because it will somehow damage Trump. Yet the left OWNS this! He can now paint himself as the law and order candidate, as the ALTERNATIVE to this madness.

This might play well in leftist college campuses and among the woke elites who live in gated communities with their own private security but it is NOT playing well in middle America! People tend to want to know that if they call 9/11 there will be cop sent and not a social worker. They'd like to know that the city they've decided to place their business in that they spent their life savings on will not turn into an autonomous zone where the rule of law no longer applies. They would like to visit a public park without seeing graffiti splattered all over monuments and headless statues.

Trump may be a terrible president but he is an EXCELLENT politician and he will ride this as hard as he can and the left has no one to blame but themselves if he is successful.
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Old 06-23-2020, 05:21 PM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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No, they are dumb.
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Old 06-23-2020, 05:24 PM
 
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They picked Biden.

What else do you need to know lol
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Old 06-23-2020, 05:26 PM
 
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Makes no difference at all.
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Old 06-23-2020, 05:29 PM
 
Location: United States
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I cannot for the life of me fathom how dumb the left is. People are finally realizing what an awful leader Trump is and many in his own party are finally turning on him. You have the Teflon President on the ropes. Usually in times of a national crisis, a president's approval rating rises, Trumps has been dropping. He bungled the Coronavirus response and made no attempt at all to unify the country after George Floyd.

So what does the left do? They refuse to crack down on rioting, looting, burning cities, autonomous zones, statues being defaced and destroyed and they support defunding or abolishing the police.

So instead of Trump versus a moderate, we get Trump versus anarchy and lawlessness.
I'm not saying the left is responsible for this but they DO OWN IT because it is the far left wing of their party that they are not speaking out against and stopping.

All Trump has to do now is run campaign ads with burning cities, statues being toppled, police standing down and scenes from CHAZ/CHOP.

I would GUESS that the calculus from the left here is that any chaos up until election day is a good thing because it will somehow damage Trump. Yet the left OWNS this! He can now paint himself as the law and order candidate, as the ALTERNATIVE to this madness.

This might play well in leftist college campuses and among the woke elites who live in gated communities with their own private security but it is NOT playing well in middle America! People tend to want to know that if they call 9/11 there will be cop sent and not a social worker. They'd like to know that the city they've decided to place their business in that they spent their life savings on will not turn into an autonomous zone where the rule of law no longer applies. They would like to visit a public park without seeing graffiti splattered all over monuments and headless statues.

Trump may be a terrible president but he is an EXCELLENT politician and he will ride this as hard as he can and the left has no one to blame but themselves if he is successful.

Trump has well over 90% approval rating among Republicans, they verifiably are not turning on him.
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Old 06-23-2020, 05:37 PM
 
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Trump has well over 90% approval rating among Republicans, they verifiably are not turning on him.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN23U2LY
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Old 06-23-2020, 05:43 PM
 
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The best thing Trump has going for him is that the Democrats have cast their lot with the looters, anarchists, and arsonists.
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Old 06-23-2020, 06:00 PM
 
Location: Nashville, TN -
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Strawman.

Does the right not realize that most people on the left didn't, and wouldn't, participate in riots?

Does the right not realize that many/most people on the left disapprove of rioters, most of whom this liberal considers to be thugs?

Does the right not realize that rioters don't represent "the left" anymore than, say, racists represent the right?
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Old 06-23-2020, 06:04 PM
 
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Strawman.

Does the right not realize that most people on the left didn't, and wouldn't, participate in riots?

Does the right not realize that many/most people on the left disapprove of rioters, most of whom this liberal considers to be thugs?

Does the right not realize that rioters don't represent "the left" anymore than, say, racists represent the right?
The world is utter black and white for some people.
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Old 06-23-2020, 06:06 PM
 
Location: King County, WA
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It depends on the impact on swing states; conservative states are going to vote conservative anyway. Consider that an issue of this nature is also likely to engage younger Democratic voters who may otherwise have a low enthusiasm for this election.
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