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Old 07-08-2020, 10:21 AM
 
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The Democrats are using the Covid scare against Trump. The Demo elected are keeping their states locked down and people out of work leaving Trump little choice but to help people. This is another case of damned if he does and damned if he don't. If he helps he is plunging the country into more debt and as the OP says, we need to vote him out. If he does nothing he doesn't care about people and we need to vote him out.



Trump wants money to help all Americans. How much money will it take for Biden and the Pandercrats to appease the BLM people with reparations and lets not forget the illegal aliens that are just dying to vote Democrat.. They need amnesty, welfare and FREE health insurance that all the dem candidates pledged for them. I wonder if Joe was in the race during the debates if he would have raised his hand when asked about free health care for illegal aliens?



What a mess. Well it has been a nice run America.
The exact truth! Of course liberal supporting Democrats won't acknowledge the truth and hypocricy of their own party. No matter what Trump does he will be damned by them either way.
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Old 07-08-2020, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Make it rain, Karl.
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Old 07-08-2020, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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https://thehill.com/homenews/morning...morning-report

This is insane!! What Republican in their right mind would want to further plunge our country deeper into debt, all the while the Administration is exclaiming "WE'RE OPEN!! OPEN NOW!!!".

I'm sick of this RINO in the White House. Where's the Tea Party faithful of just a few years ago? Where's your outrage now? Get this clown out of office. Put a real Conservative on the ticket and dump Trump 'the King of Debt'.
Tea Party faithful member present, and accounted for, Threerun.

Here's where I am at on this:

a) I never voted for Trump in either primary (I voted for Ted Cruz in '16, & nobody in '20)

b) I voted for Trump vs. Hillary because I was sick & tired of out-of-touch lifelong politicians running America

c) The 2020 Republican ticket is already decided, and there isn't anything I can do to change it

d) I can vote for Trump, Biden, or write-in Kanye West (or anyone else who has no chance of winning)

e) Spending requires the House, the Senate, & the President...all 3, so Trump is only 1/3rd responsible

f) A vote for Joe is a vote for: Socialism, more taxes, more spending, less freedom, less defense, & more China

I'm 100% anti-socialism, & 100% anti-China, 100% against higher taxes (w/o spending cuts), so what would you suggest I do?
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Old 07-08-2020, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Lost in Montana *recalculating*...
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Tea Party faithful member present, and accounted for, Threerun.

Here's where I am at on this:

a) I never voted for Trump in either primary (I voted for Ted Cruz in '16, & nobody in '20)

b) I voted for Trump vs. Hillary because I was sick & tired of out-of-touch lifelong politicians running America

c) The 2020 Republican ticket is already decided, and there isn't anything I can do to change it

d) I can vote for Trump, Biden, or write-in Kanye West (or anyone else who has no chance of winning)

e) Spending requires the House, the Senate, & the President...all 3, so Trump is only 1/3rd responsible

f) A vote for Joe is a vote for: Socialism, more taxes, more spending, less freedom, less defense, & more China

I'm 100% anti-socialism, & 100% anti-China, 100% against higher taxes (w/o spending cuts), so what would you suggest I do?
As an independent I'm voting against Trump with the HOPE that this current iteration of Trumpism is relegated to the trash bin of history and saying my prayers that a revamped 'fiscally conservative' party emerges. You know- the one that was promised as a 'big tent' party?

Hope springs eternal.
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Old 07-08-2020, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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What's criminal is that the budget SHOULD have been balanced when a Republican took office and the burgeoning debt reduced during a time of relative economic prosperity. I'll give credit where credit is due at least the numbers were going in somewhat the right direction when the Republicans (under Trump) took the reins.

Trump and the current 'crop' of Trump Republicans did the exact opposite. We have federal budget deficit of $1T a year thanks to a goosed tax cut and spending bill and then ON TOP OF THAT beauty are several COVID related spending bills and now a proposed WHOPPER.

Any 'real Republican' and fiscal conservative should be hopping pee'd off about what this party has morphed into. You got suckered into the same stupid identity politics that Trumpers so vehemently rail against Democrats for, all the while the Republican donor class got to raid the piggy bank at our expense.
BOTH party's are raiding the piggy bank at our expense. Did you see Pelosi's husband's company got some of it? (just 1 small example)

It's not Red vs Blue, it's the top 1% against the rest of us, and we are getting creamed worse than the Washington Generals basketball team.
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Old 07-08-2020, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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Where the hell are the tea baggers?
Tea Bagger here. What would you have me do? I won't vote for a Socialist party that loves China, and Rand Paul or Thomas Massie are not on the ticket in November.
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Old 07-08-2020, 10:59 AM
 
Location: Charleston, SC
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Trump wouldn't spend a dime of taxpayers' money on anyone but himself, his family and his cronies. So if he's proposing new bailouts you know who it's going to, unless he intends to use it to buy votes from people for being grateful to him for the money. Trump never does ANYTHING unless it benefits him personally.
Using it to buy vote, sure I can see that. Spending it on his family, that's a stretch.
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Old 07-08-2020, 10:59 AM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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Of course he does. There are still votes to be bought.

Debt = $26.5T

He has ramped up the debt by about 7 Trillion in 3.5 years, and it seems he is not done yet.
Presidents are not authorized to spend alone you know. The House controls the purse strings, and that is your pal Nancy Pelosi.
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Old 07-08-2020, 11:02 AM
 
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As an independent I'm voting against Trump with the HOPE that this current iteration of Trumpism is relegated to the trash bin of history and saying my prayers that a revamped 'fiscally conservative' party emerges. You know- the one that was promised as a 'big tent' party?

Hope springs eternal.
Joe Biden is promising Fiscal Prudence?

I will vote for him!
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Old 07-08-2020, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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Rand Paul put it well: "When Republicans Are In Power, There Is No Conservative Party"
Rand Paul is my guy, and so is his sidekick, Thomas Massie. These are the only 2 in Congress out of 535 to vote against ALL of these spending measures. Hopefully, we'll have a Paul-Massie ticket in 2024 since they are our last hope.
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