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Old 07-14-2020, 06:26 PM
 
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And...turns out its mostly smaller private labs not giving both numbers. The overall affect is minor, and makes ZERO difference to the # of positive tests, just the % of tests that are positive.
really?............ http://ww11.doh.state.fl.us/comm/_pa...ogy_latest.pdf

The Florida Department of Health is recording a total of 300,691 total tests...

..but ~85% of all tests....249,669 tests...were performed by just 2 labs...the top 2

Those 2 labs show 2.8% and 4.1% of all tests were positive...that's 85% of all the tests done were about 3-4% positive

yet...the Florida Department of Health says the rate is anywhere from 12% to 20% positive

How does the FDH get from 3-4%......to 12-20%?

..there's no other way than counting all those 40%...60%.....90%.....100%

The first two labs are really doing random testing.....the rest are not

(3-4% positive....means 96-97% negative)

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It makes a huge difference....saying the population is 3-4% positive.....and saying the population is 12-20% positive

....rules of how we can act are based on those numbers
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Old 07-14-2020, 06:27 PM
 
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I see this point and it's valid.

However, the positive rate is also an extremely important number. Don't discount it.

Floridians should consider themselves lucky that the screw-up was so outlandish (labs reporting 100% positive) because someone finally caught it.

Absolutely its important. I know a lot of folks dont pay attention to it, but they should. Its part of my predictive spreadsheets. the important part for me is that it appeared that it was mostly smaller labs. I'd really like to know how many, and hopefully they get it sorted so better predictions can be made on things.
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Old 07-14-2020, 06:29 PM
 
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I see this point and it's valid.

However, the positive rate is also an extremely important number. Don't discount it.

Floridians should consider themselves lucky that the screw-up was so outlandish (labs reporting 100% positive) because someone finally caught it.
What people are reporting on everyday are not positivity rates in various facilities, but the number of positives in Florida, which is north of 200K now? Is that right?



OTOH, if it were false positives that would be huge difference. I suspect the samples are binned and the data was binned and then not reported or maybe there wasn't a streamlined process to report for these labs.
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Old 07-14-2020, 06:36 PM
 
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Going to the Fox news source instead of breitbart for example reveals just how much breitbart manipulates folks.


https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/fo...vid-19-results


The Florida Department of health revealed that some labs weren't reporting the negative results, JUST the positive. So the case count is accurate, the positivity rate is lower. This IS important, but not as important as say giving inaccurate positive counts would be. Now notice something, t6he breitbart article was posted just now. The linked fox news article that includes the response by the florida department of health? Was updated 4 hours ago with that information. But reading the breitbart article....its made to sound like some huge conspiracy.


And...turns out its mostly smaller private labs not giving both numbers. The overall affect is minor, and makes ZERO difference to the # of positive tests, just the % of tests that are positive.
Yet another thread where the title is a lie.

Covid 19 numbers are not inflated by Florida labs.

The percentage of positive Covid-19 tests in relation to the total population remains the same.

Does anyone care, or even notice, what the percentage of those tested are?

BTW, in case anybody is interested in something other than Republican nonsense, over 8,000 people are currently hospitalized in Florida, and over 4,000 have already died.

As of 4 days ago, 40 hospitals had maxed out their ICU capacity and the numbers continue to climb.
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Old 07-14-2020, 06:40 PM
 
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Yet another thread where the title is a lie.

Covid 19 numbers are not inflated by Florida labs.

The percentage of positive Covid-19 tests in relation to the total population remains the same.
No, the numbers were inflated by the Florida Department of Health....they admitted knowing the labs were reporting positives and not reporting negatives...and the FDH went on and included them in the random test results....that skewed the numbers

no....it changes the percentage results of people tested extremely....from 3-4%...to 12-20%
..total population infection is an estimate based on that
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Old 07-14-2020, 06:43 PM
 
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No, the numbers were inflated by the Florida Department of Health....they admitted knowing the labs were reporting positives and not reporting negatives...and the FDH went on and included them in the random test results....that skewed the numbers

no....it changes the percentage results of people tested extremely....from 3-4%...to 12-20%
So the positivity rate in Florida is now 4%?
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Old 07-14-2020, 06:44 PM
 
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No, the numbers were inflated by the Florida Department of Health....they admitted knowing the labs were reporting positives and not reporting negatives...and the FDH went on and included them in the random test results....that skewed the numbers

no....it changes the percentage results of people tested extremely....from 3-4%...to 12-20%
The percentage of positive tests in the population at large remains the same. From what I read, if you test positive three times in a row, it is still count it is one positive.

The percentage of those who were tested changes. But then who the hell cares about that?

The title of the thread is that the numbers were inflated. They were not.

With the hospitalizations= exceeding hospital capacity, this whole argument is just beyond silly.
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Old 07-14-2020, 06:46 PM
 
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So the positivity rate in Florida is now 4%?
who knows.....the FDH has screwed it up so bad..and there's no way for a do over

85% of the lab results came back 3-4% positive

..the rest are all so screwed up no one will even know
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Old 07-14-2020, 06:47 PM
 
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No, the numbers were inflated by the Florida Department of Health....they admitted knowing the labs were reporting positives and not reporting negatives...and the FDH went on and included them in the random test results....that skewed the numbers

no....it changes the percentage results of people tested extremely....from 3-4%...to 12-20%
..total population infection is an estimate based on that
That is a percentage of the testing population and really, nobody even pays attention to it. People pay attention to the positive rate relative to the total population. Has that changed? That is important to know.
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Old 07-14-2020, 06:48 PM
 
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The percentage of positive tests in the population at large remains the same. From what I read, if you test positive three times in a row, it is still count it is one positive.

The percentage of those who were tested changes. But then who the hell cares about that?

The title of the thread is that the numbers were inflated. They were not.

With the hospitalizations= exceeding hospital capacity, this whole argument is just beyond silly.
no the percentage is what they screwed up so bad....

...how many people..hard number...tested positive remains the same
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