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Old 12-15-2020, 12:47 PM
 
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Because the CDC says it, you have to believe it according to Serger. No critical and independent thought is allowed.
Lol, so you are suggesting that the death statistics (which is based on the actual death certificates) is wrong? Remember this discussion is only about the totals and excess so do not try to deflect by saying that somebody died from something else. Got it? Try that "critical and independent thought" thing for a change.

 
Old 12-15-2020, 12:49 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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12 people with Covid19, not 12 people from Covid19.

The truth kind of destroys the entire narrative, doesn't it?
I'd far, far sooner go back to the good 'ol days of 4 deaths from the flu, or with the flu, if you prefer.
 
Old 12-15-2020, 01:26 PM
 
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Lol. You wanted the data. It was given to you. What else do you want?
You didn't provide the data. I'm asking for year over year death rates for the last 10 years.
(hint- I posted most of it earlier on this thread, it shows that year over year death rates vary quite a bit more than most would think- and there lies the heart of the deception)
 
Old 12-15-2020, 01:28 PM
 
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Lol, so you are suggesting that the death statistics (which is based on the actual death certificates) is wrong? Remember this discussion is only about the totals and excess so do not try to deflect by saying that somebody died from something else. Got it? Try that "critical and independent thought" thing for a change.
And yet, death rates increased from as high year over year of 6% in prior years, and no one questioned it, blaming the increase on pandemic.
 
Old 12-15-2020, 01:45 PM
 
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You didn't provide the data. I'm asking for year over year death rates for the last 10 years.
(hint- I posted most of it earlier on this thread, it shows that year over year death rates vary quite a bit more than most would think- and there lies the heart of the deception)
Lol. Yes, I did, for the last 5 (not counting the current one), you are welcome to search for more. Go to the US graph, click download, download the spreadsheet, use excel. The data for this year only goes to Nov. 1, so use only rows 1822-1865.
 
Old 12-15-2020, 02:24 PM
 
Location: Unplugged from the matrix
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As discussed ad nauseam, the flu us much less contagious than the SARS-CoV-2, so mitigation measures for the latter have greatly suppressed the flu.
The problem with this is people rarely were tested for the flu. They were diagnosed on symptoms unless it got really serious aka needing hospitalization. Meanwhile, COVID testing is literally required my many employers so people are testing and coming up positive for a coronavirus.
 
Old 12-15-2020, 03:24 PM
 
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Lol. Yes, I did, for the last 5 (not counting the current one), you are welcome to search for more. Go to the US graph, click download, download the spreadsheet, use excel. The data for this year only goes to Nov. 1, so use only rows 1822-1865.

Im sorry i skimmed it. I will try 2 check out the data and get back to you.
 
Old 12-15-2020, 07:19 PM
 
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So far, there has been 12 COVID-19 deaths at the hospital, compared to 4 from the worst flu season.
I wonder how many of those were just LABELED AS DYING FROM COVID! (Which is happening alot)

If someone gets in a car wreck.... THE DEATH IS LISTED AS THIS!!
 
Old 12-15-2020, 07:44 PM
 
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I wonder how many of those were just LABELED AS DYING FROM COVID! (Which is happening alot)

If someone gets in a car wreck.... THE DEATH IS LISTED AS THIS!!
Two words (for a zillionth time) : excess deaths.
 
Old 12-15-2020, 08:38 PM
 
Location: Rio Rancho, NM
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12 people with Covid19, not 12 people from Covid19.

The truth kind of destroys the entire narrative, doesn't it?
Yes, and everyone who dies from cancer actually dies with it. Complications from the disease are what prove to be fatal. They are still classified as cancer deaths.

Would it make you feel better if we reclassified Covid-19 deaths as respiratory failure due to suffocating on one's own bodily fluids?
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