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Old 08-06-2020, 12:09 PM
 
Location: Georgia
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...merican-lives/


Wow. Guess some folks got what they wanted and it was the more dead the better, it hurt Trump.
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Old 08-06-2020, 12:23 PM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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How many of those countries had comorbidity rates at the same level as the US does?
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Old 08-06-2020, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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A lot of these studies are flawed.

When a study uses HCQ on the young, we already know the young are very resistant to this virus and bounce back quickly, so testing them and claiming proof of HCQ effectiveness is very misleading.

Then there are study where they used HCQ on elderly people in their last week of life. Expecting any drug to be effective in a miraculous recovery during the very late onset of the this disease, is flawed too.

And yet, these are some of the circumstances of studies people are using to either promote, or denounce HCQ.

BTW, have the effectiveness of masks changed again? I cannot keep track with the ever changing and erratic advise from the so called "experts."
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Old 08-06-2020, 01:02 PM
 
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Wow. Guess some folks just don't bother doing the math themselves, or really digging into the details.


Total deaths - countries listed as non-HCQ = 306,000. Population - 663M.


Deaths per million - 461. Not 683. That is either a) horrible math or b) a horrible chart. Since practically no nation is over the given total of 683 (at the moment, just the Belgium, and the UK) - there is NO list of countries that would make that chart make sense.


Meantime - 2B people - sure, but 1.4B of them are in India - where there are 40,000 dead, and nearly 1000 more every - single - day. No signs of slowing. In fact, it's increasing. If HCQ were so effective in India, I would expect the death rate to have tapered off by now, no? Instead, it's going the wrong way.


This chart and article are quite the cherry picked set of data. Why not use Brazil on one column or the other?


https://www.newsmax.com/scitech/braz.../20/id/968264/


Because Brazil's using HCQ and their death rate is 500 per million...and rising. That's the very definition of cherry picking data.



There may yet be "proof" HCQ does something one way or the other - but biased (and wrong) charts like this one just make you look desperate. And not for a cure.
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Old 08-06-2020, 01:20 PM
 
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The OP linked to a Brief that linked to a page listing 67 Peer reviewed studies .

The issue here is that this is science. for you science that does not push ideology isn't valid.


also you need to use words in an order that provides content humans can process and gain understanding from.


what you have done is prove that the ability spell words does not mean one can say things that make sense.

Last edited by Oldhag1; 08-06-2020 at 03:13 PM.. Reason: Removed deleted quote and direct response to it.
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Old 08-06-2020, 02:48 PM
 
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Of the 67, top three are: #1, not done yet. #2, inconclusive. #3, although it says "positive" - I failed to find that statement in the report itself. Many of that 67 are NOT supportive.


Meantime, people - keep this in mind. Showing that HCQ helps some people is not enough. You must demonstrate that it helps more than it hurts.
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Old 08-06-2020, 05:25 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Of the 67, top three are: #1, not done yet. #2, inconclusive. #3, although it says "positive" - I failed to find that statement in the report itself. Many of that 67 are NOT supportive.


Meantime, people - keep this in mind. Showing that HCQ helps some people is not enough. You must demonstrate that it helps more than it hurts.
HCQ has been around for 65 year, yes it helps more than hurts. It's safe as Motrin and Tylenol. It's safer than peanut butter, since a significant number of children and adult have an allergic reaction, and can be in serious trouble.


People like you act as if HCQ is a new, untested drug. We know all there is about it.
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Old 08-06-2020, 07:09 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Of the 67, top three are: #1, not done yet. #2, inconclusive. #3, although it says "positive" - I failed to find that statement in the report itself. Many of that 67 are NOT supportive.


Meantime, people - keep this in mind. Showing that HCQ helps some people is not enough. You must demonstrate that it helps more than it hurts.
hahahaha Show proof it hurts more than it helps. You can't so you won't.

MOST are supportive.

What else are you going to make up?

https://c19study.com
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Old 08-06-2020, 07:20 PM
 
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...merican-lives/


Wow. Guess some folks got what they wanted and it was the more dead the better, it hurt Trump.
These aren't actually published studies. They haven't undergone peer review.
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Old 08-06-2020, 07:45 PM
 
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They unreasonably villified HCQ beyond the point of suspicion. Azithro is more dangerous to the heart, but hcq was the one in their sights. Mind boggling. Evil.
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