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Old 08-13-2020, 12:20 PM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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"They want $25 billion for the post office. Now, they need that money in order to have the post office work so it can take all of these millions and millions of ballots. Now, in the meantime, they aren't getting there. But if they don't get those two items, that means you can't have universal mail-in voting because they're not equipped to have it."

https://www.npr.org/2020/08/13/90210...d1vMlQ10j8YBJU

You were saying?
You're trying to say that not a single person can vote unless they receive a batch-mailed ballot. There must not be any other means to be able to vote, according to you and others. There are other ways to vote, and because of that then there is no 'restriction of voter rights'.
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Old 08-13-2020, 12:22 PM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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You're trying to say that not a single person can vote unless they receive a batch-mailed ballot. There must not be any other means to be able to vote, according to you and others. There are other ways to vote, and because of that then there is no 'restriction of voter rights'.
That's not at all what I said, nor is it the topic of discussion.

Care to try again?

restriction:
a limiting condition or measure, especially a legal one.
"planning restrictions on commercial development"

the limitation or control of someone or something, or the state of being limited or restricted.
"the restriction of local government power"




Restriction does not require there to be no other means available.
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Old 08-13-2020, 12:23 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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And the democrats are trying to use mail in voting to commit fraud. Trump is doing what's best for America and Americans. If you can go shop, go to church, go out and do ANYTHING then you can go vote IN PERSON.


Have any FACTUAL evidence of that or just trying to make excuses if Dear Leader gets spanked in the election?
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Old 08-13-2020, 12:24 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Trump admits his war on the USPS is an effort to restrict voting rights.



Well, if proven, that should guarantee if he gets reelected that he'll be the first POTUS ever to be impeached twice.
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Old 08-13-2020, 12:27 PM
 
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https://www.businessinsider.com/trum...-voting-2020-8

Can we all agree that his admitted goal of restricting voting rights is not aligned with American values or the values of our founding fathers?
Bingo!

This is in essence what it boils down to. Trump vows to block stimulus money (to people in need) and at the same time, block funding for mail in voting. A sizable portion of people are serving in another country or can not or are afraid to leave their house as we live in difficult times. Voters on both sides of the political aisle. The funding to the USPS has nothing to do with anything other then the costs to be sure all Americans are represented.

National and state level studies over the years say that widespread voting fraud does not happen but now, out of thin air it will just randomly happen?
We have had widespread mail in voting since the Civil war and no one batted an eye. Now of a sudden its a big deal and some are batting eyes and clutching pearls?

Is blocking / limiting access to safe voting a principle that makes Republicans, independents and democrats blood boil or are some going to continue to put it on the "meh, sucks to be them, I'll get mine" burner?

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Old 08-13-2020, 12:29 PM
 
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"They want $25 billion for the post office. Now, they need that money in order to have the post office work so it can take all of these millions and millions of ballots. Now, in the meantime, they aren't getting there. But if they don't get those two items, that means you can't have universal mail-in voting because they're not equipped to have it."

https://www.npr.org/2020/08/13/90210...d1vMlQ10j8YBJU

You were saying?
I'm still saying it !!!
You have offered nothing satisfying what I ask for !!! Your offering is far removed from what the thread headlines say !!!
Still looking for the Trump quote that admits he's restricting voting rights !!!

Doesn't congress have the purse strings or did that change, like the mind of Kamala does ?
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Old 08-13-2020, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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And the democrats are trying to use mail in voting to commit fraud. Trump is doing what's best for America and Americans. If you can go shop, go to church, go out and do ANYTHING then you can go vote IN PERSON.
What is he doing for small business owners who ship and receive raw materials, products, and parts, people who receive prescriptions by mail, and others for whom this may be literally a matter of life and death of person, income, or property?


A lot of those negatively affected are not Democrats.
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Old 08-13-2020, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Elysium
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Then there's this little gem, in addition:


https://www.salon.com/2020/08/12/mai...RroTr5oLPFn8m0

..."We are beginning to see those changes and how it is impacting the mail. Mail is beginning to pile up in our offices, and we're seeing equipment being removed," she said on Tuesday. "So we are beginning to see the impact of those changes."

"Curious," exclaimed host Noel King, "I hadn't heard about this one. Equipment being removed. What equipment?"

"The sorting equipment that we use to process mail for delivery," said Karol, who is also a postal clerk. "In Iowa, we are losing machines . . . so that also hinders our ability to process mail in the way that we had in the past."
...


So, removal of mail sorting machines, reductions in the amount of overtime allowed. It's almost like it's intentionally slowing down mail service, isn't it? That's weird....
And was mail being intentionally slowed 20 years ago when most city carrier routes had their equipment cut from 3 or three and a half cases with 6 shelves for letters and 4 four flats down to 2 cases with 5 shelves nationwide? It was due to automation and a lower percentage of mail being worked by hand "cased" in postal language in the hope of creating more floor space in the station for the increasing parcel load.
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Old 08-13-2020, 12:41 PM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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And was mail being intentionally slowed 20 years ago when most city carrier routes had their equipment cut from 3 or three and a half cases with 6 shelves for letters and 4 four flats down to 2 cases with 5 shelves nationwide? It was due to automation and a lower percentage of mail being worked by hand "cased" in postal language in the hope of creating more floor space in the station for the increasing parcel load.
How is removing mail sorting machines as mail piles up increasing efficiency, exactly?

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Old 08-13-2020, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Where does that come from in the US Constitution ?

Must have made that up.
It's right there if you read it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postal...ost%20Roads%22.
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