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Well, history has said otherwise, and there is no proof. In fact all facts lead to the contrary, so can you point me to your source?
If you do any research, you would see how impossible widespread fraud by mail would be.
I gave a quote from the POTUS saying he is trying to defund the USPS specifically to suppress votes. That is PROOF.
Where are your quotes that D's are trying to use mail-in voting for fraud. Where is your proof that it's ever happened on any scale? Where is your proof that it's even possible?
Trump and R's are also shutting down polling stations that don't favor them (FACT)
R's have been caught gerrymandering "with laser precision" (FACT)
More modern cases of voter fraud have been committed by R's than D's (FACT)
Trump himself uses mail-in voting (FACT)
I recieved a brochure (by USPS, LMAO) yesteday with him touting absentee voting (a form of mail in voting).
Where's your proof? Not your accusations, PROOF.
You pretend you want a civil conversation buy you make stuff up about intention to "suppress votes" and "restrict voting rights". You are just dribbling talking points. You have presented no evidence of either of these.
...When a citizen can do as was always done, request a ballot to be mailed or show up to the polls, how is that ""disenfranchising" (disenfranchising = suppress, oppress, fetter, hobble, deprive and yes even "restrict") them of their rights to vote?
Because he's trying to kneecap the USPS and create problems with successful mail-in/absentee ballots in what is certain to be a higher-than-normal mail-in/absentee ballot election.
How on earth did you make it this far into the thread without realizing what the discussion is about?????
Well, history has said otherwise, and there is no proof. In fact all facts lead to the contrary, so can you point me to your source?
If you do any research, you would see how impossible widespread fraud by mail would be.
I gave a quote from the POTUS saying he is trying to defund the USPS specifically to suppress votes. That is PROOF.
Where are your quotes that D's are trying to use mail-in voting for fraud. Where is your proof that it's ever happened on any scale? Where is your proof that it's even possible?
Trump and R's are also shutting down polling stations that don't favor them (FACT)
R's have been caught gerrymandering "with laser precision" (FACT)
More modern cases of voter fraud have been committed by R's than D's (FACT)
Trump himself uses mail-in voting (FACT)
I recieved a brochure (by USPS, LMAO) yesteday with him touting absentee voting (a form of mail in voting).
Where's your proof? Not your accusations, PROOF.
I searched and searched, and still haven't found the quote that uses the word "specifically", "defund" or "suppress".
This, from the article you linked:
"President Donald Trump told Fox Business on Thursday morning that he would block additional funding and election assistance for the US Postal Service to sabotage mail-in voting." Additional, not defund. There should be NO funding in a bill that gives money to outside of covid-related relief to american workers.
"They want $25 billion — billion — for the post office. Now they need that money in order to have the post office work so it can take all of these millions and millions of ballots," Trump said on Thursday, adding, "But if they don't get those two items, that means you can't have universal mail-in voting." Again, NO defunding mentioned. But he is calling out the Dems for adding pork that will pay for, in the tune of billions of dollars, to pay for their attempted game of voter fraud. To the post office, that has drained our tax dollars, yet provides horrible service. My beef isn't with the actual vote-by-mail process, as it is with the fact that an incompetent and inefficient post office will be the ones facilitating the process.
"Under Postmaster General Louis DeJoy, the cash-strapped USPS has implemented cost-cutting measures that experts say could harm the delivery of election-related mail." Not a Trump quote, but a bureaucrat who wants to protect their salary. Key word in that sentence is "could", spoken to manipulate the situation and try and get more money. Every business in this country is cash strapped. Why should the post office be immune from implementing cost-cutting measures? Just because they can use tax dollars taken by force from taxpayers that are themselves struggling right now, doesn't mean they should.
Stop reading headlines that are nothing but lies. There's a reason the mainstream media uses these headlines. They know their low-information readers don't bother to read further into the articles for FACTS.
We're saying that doesn't cut it. That doesn't prove a "war on the USPS". It doesn't suggest a motive for anything since there is no allegation of anything for which a motive could exist.
The Trump comment excuse cycle rears it's head again!
1. He didn't say that. Check.
2. OK, he said it but it doesn't mean what you think it means. Check.
3. He said it, it means what you think, but it's not that bad. Check.
4. He said it, it means what you think, it is that bad, but others have done/said worse. On deck, I'm sure.
You people arguing against Mail in balloting need to take a long look in the mirror, and ask yourself if you’re arguing it because President Trump said so (without providing any evidence at all). What you’re really doing is arguing for voter suppression. You don’t want legitimate voters to vote, their right, because if they do it might result in a Trump loss.
Deep down inside where you can’t lie to yourself, you know it. You should be ashamed of yourselves.
The best compromise is to let people request mail-in ballots instead of mailing out ballots everywhere. Forcing everyone to go to the polls is unwarranted due to COVID, but I don't see the value in mailing out ballots in mass.
You people arguing against Mail in balloting need to take a long look in the mirror, and ask yourself if you’re arguing it because President Trump said so (without providing any evidence at all). What you’re really doing is arguing for voter suppression. You don’t want legitimate voters to vote, their right, because if they do it might result in a Trump loss.
Deep down inside where you can’t lie to yourself, you know it. You should be ashamed of yourselves.
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