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Old 10-12-2020, 10:54 PM
 
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Fascinating article.

For those too lazy to read the article, here's the Cliffs notes of the main points from the article (yes, many are aware of the general story of what happened, but not until this article did we know more exact details about the clerk who called 9-1-1 and the circumstances surrounding it, these are newer information):

- The clerk who made the first 9-1-1 call from the store was a young Black male, who was a U.S. citizen but spent much time living abroad so English was like a second language to him (and not particularly aware of the 'dynamics' between Black Americans and the police).

- The reason why this clerk called 9-1-1 was because when another clerk tested the bill Floyd gave her, it tested counterfeit so she went outside to ask for the items back from Floyd. Floyd cursed her and made a fuss, so the clerk rightfully told the young man to call 9-1-1 (the clerk also thought Floyd was drunk).

- The store for many years had problems with gangs and drug activity around the premises. It came to the point the store would be in trouble if they did not call 9-1-1 to report illegal activity (the store owner alleges there was actually a quota system from the police department in effect, where they had to make a certain number of 9-1-1 calls per certain time period). The clerk asking another to call 9-1-1 is probably a direct result of that.

- The rest of the story is the usual fluff about tensions over those who didn't want the store to open and blamed the store for what happened, to those who have a more open minded view.

To me this is yet another example of how George Floyd is hardly the innocent angel BLM and their ilk are making him out to be. Again, I'm not saying he deserved to die the way he did but (or the appearance of how he died), but many who view him as an 'innocent' victim are basing their opinions solely on the eight minutes plus footage of the cop with his knee on Floyd's neck area.

The store and the clerk who called 9-1-1 did absolutely nothing wrong based on what happened, a belligerent and apparently intoxicated George Floyd knowingly passing a counterfeit bill and refusing to return the items when asked.

On a side note, as one of the comments in the article touches upon, there seems to be a pattern with these types of stores in inner cities and low income areas. If you are non-Black and own these stores, there's a pretty good chance you will be blamed for many of the ills in that area. Whether it's the Korean immigrants in South L.A. or Arabs in the midwest, there may come a point you will be demonized as being insensitive to the 'needs' of the community and activists will complain that Blacks need to support only other Black owned businesses. Certainly some of these immigrants are not always blameless in their attitudes and demeanor towards the local community, but that doesn't mean they all are. I realize the financial startup costs may be lower, but there comes a point when you have to ask yourself is it worth the headache when you will be hated for only doing what is needed to protect the safety of your workers and the business itself?
Have you ever wondered HOW all these drugs consistently come into these areas to begin with? Seriously, there is NEVER any lulls or shortages, seems like ALL dealers are always fully supplied to meet demand...


And this is just one little city...its the exact same thing in EVERY other city thru out the country, cities large and small and everything in between!
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Old 10-12-2020, 10:56 PM
 
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Calling 911...for someone passing counterfeit money? Really? Thats not exactly an 'emergency situation'! Geez


Its something you call police administration offices during normal business hours, Monday thru Friday....Its not an emergency that requires immediate police response.
Protip: you call 911 to central dispatching unit. From there the dispatchers categorize your calls to emergency or non-emergency, police or EMS or both. You think people memorize the "non-emergency" number to their local police department?

Source: i am a cop
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Old 10-12-2020, 10:57 PM
 
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Calling 911...for someone passing counterfeit money? Really? Thats not exactly an 'emergency situation'! Geez


Its something you call police administration offices during normal business hours, Monday thru Friday....Its not an emergency that requires immediate police response.
I guess you missed the part where Floyd was belligerent and appeared drunk/high. Perfectly good reason to call 911, especially if he was about to drive off.

It also was a crime in progress, like someone breaking into your car is not an "emergency", but guess what, people call 911 and the police respond.
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Old 10-12-2020, 10:59 PM
 
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Have you ever wondered HOW all these drugs consistently come into these areas to begin with? Seriously, there is NEVER any lulls or shortages, seems like ALL dealers are always fully supplied to meet demand...


And this is just one little city...its the exact same thing in EVERY other city thru out the country, cities large and small and everything in between!
Incorrect, it is not uncommon to have supply fluctuations, from an over supply to a shortage.

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Protip: you call 911 to central dispatching unit. From there the dispatchers categorize your calls to emergency or non-emergency, police or EMS or both.

Source: i am a cop
He knows this, he just wants to defend the criminal Floyd no matter what, to the point of saying the people who called the police are now the bad guys, not the guy high on drugs passing fake money.
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Old 10-12-2020, 11:00 PM
 
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Also, calling a 911 for someone passing a fake bill is a perfectly right move. Why? Because it is actually a crime, not an administrative issue.
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Old 10-12-2020, 11:03 PM
 
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Calling 911...for someone passing counterfeit money? Really? Thats not exactly an 'emergency situation'! Geez


Its something you call police administration offices during normal business hours, Monday thru Friday....Its not an emergency that requires immediate police response.
So when do you call? A day later? Week?

How can the police investigate unless they are able to question the person who passed the phony bill?
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Old 10-12-2020, 11:08 PM
 
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So when do you call? A day later? Week?

How can the police investigate unless they are able to question the person who passed the phony bill?
rsteven62 is probably a criminal himself. Dude believes passing around fake money is just an "administrative" issue.

I deal with these kind of criminals for 12 years. One thing they alway have in common is they believe their illegal activity is legal or justified
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Old 10-12-2020, 11:12 PM
 
Location: A Yankee in northeast TN
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Calling 911...for someone passing counterfeit money? Really? Thats not exactly an 'emergency situation'! Geez


Its something you call police administration offices during normal business hours, Monday thru Friday....Its not an emergency that requires immediate police response.
I don't know if it applies here, but in some areas 911 is the ONLY police number for non emergencies, there is no other number to call.
Washington County Sheriff's Office If you need an officer.....
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Old 10-12-2020, 11:27 PM
 
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Calling 911...for someone passing counterfeit money? Really? Thats not exactly an 'emergency situation'! Geez


Its something you call police administration offices during normal business hours, Monday thru Friday....Its not an emergency that requires immediate police response.
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According to an archived city document, in 1999 the Hennepin County Attorney’s Office commenced a nuisance-abatement proceeding against CUP Foods, which resulted in the city requiring CUP Foods employees to call the police on all illegal activities, or risk losing their license.
https://slate.com/human-interest/202...=pocket-newtab

Passing a fake bill is an ILLEGAL ACTIVITY.

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Old 10-12-2020, 11:51 PM
 
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Calling 911...for someone passing counterfeit money? Really? Thats not exactly an 'emergency situation'! Geez


Its something you call police administration offices during normal business hours, Monday thru Friday....Its not an emergency that requires immediate police response.
When the George Floyd incident first started making the viral video and news media rounds, I'm pretty sure I felt the same way as I gathered bits and pieces of the story.

I thought, why involve the police when Floyd himself may not even have known he passed a counterfeit bill, and was just chilling by his vehicle with his friends. I was angry like many at what I thought was a cold blooded murder of an innocent man who wasn't resisting arrest.

And then, the true story gets revealed in bits and pieces. None of that ever mattered to the likes of BLM and their supporters, things like finding out the entire story and context of what happened, and by the time the media started to show what actually happened weeks and months later, hundreds of millions of dollars in damage and countless lives were ruined by rioters and looters. Video is released showing Floyd actively resisting arrest and acting highly irrational and agitated.

And now, after all this time, we finally know exactly why 9-1-1 was called. When the Floyd incident happened, initially the store owner of course was trying to make it all seem as if calling 9-1-1 was not necessary and if only he was there, this whole thing could have been prevented. But then it is revealed Floyd probably knew the money was counterfeit, and when confronted, refused to return the merchandise and was acting highly aggressive I'm sure and in a drunk manner. Any store owner would have called 9-1-1 at that point.
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