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Old 11-04-2020, 02:04 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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That is very un-canadian of you.

Remember, these are innocent children being victimized by homicidal maniac americans. These innocent children need help! Why don't you think of the children? Why don't you open your door and pocket book to help these CHILDREN?
Hyperbole.

Homicidal?

Canada is not your doormat, plus it's been explained as to why Canada as a country can't meddle. Now if it were homicidal activity, there would be some statement I'm sure.
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Old 11-04-2020, 02:07 PM
 
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Hyperbole.

Homicidal?

Canada is not your doormat, plus it's been explained as to why Canada as a country can't meddle. Now if it were homicidal activity, there would be some statement I'm sure.
And the United States is not Latin America's doormat. Or at least we shouldn't be.
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Old 11-04-2020, 02:08 PM
 
Location: Cali
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Picking up your kids, and being detained at a border are two very different things.

If the adult can not prove the child is theirs, you still document who the child was travelling with. It would at least give you something to work on.
I am talking about parent/child verification
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Old 11-04-2020, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Cali
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Hyperbole.

Homicidal?

Canada is not your doormat, plus it's been explained as to why Canada as a country can't meddle. Now if it were homicidal activity, there would be some statement I'm sure.
US is not Mexico's doormat either. Remember, central americans have to walk across Mexico to get to the US


Now you understand the feeling.
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Old 11-04-2020, 02:24 PM
 
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You are losing the direction of the intent of my posts.

I'm sure some parents got arrested, but we are talking about children who YOU DON"T KNOW WHO THE PARENTS ARE.

Whatever the parents did or did not do, does forgive the fact that these children were separated without documenting who they were being separated from.

Blame the adults. Sure. What you are left with are over 500 children who through no fault of their own, are being treated like criminals.
Exactly, you dont know who the parents are. No documentation. When no one has documentation, how do you document who the child was with.

If the cops pick up someone with child in tow, they dont know if said person is that childs parent without any documentation. The child is separated and placed with the state. Either the parents come forward proving that is their child or the child remains with the state.
These kids are not US citizens and don't belong with the state. No parents or relatives have come forward to claim them so they are sent back to Mexico from whence they came for Mexican official to determine placement and reunite them if that can be accomplished.
As another poster stated whats the big deal with the Mexican government caring for these kids until they can be reunited? Is there not a better chance of reunification due to no language barriers and Mexico being closer and more similar to the bordering countries these kids came from?

I dont think you know how criminals are treated? Do you really think these kids are being mistreated by the US or Mexican government?
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Old 11-04-2020, 02:40 PM
 
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And once again, why aren't their parents looking for and claiming them? The incompetence is/was on the part of the parents in the first place and it's shouldn't be our problem to deal with other then shipping them back to Mexico and they can wait for their parents there (if they ever show up).

You say you aren't for illegal immigration and yet you want to reward those here who have managed to evade the law for 10 years. That's just encouraging more illegal immigration.
Because the USA Border agents took the children away from the parents. And then dumps then into Mexico, rather than caring for them.

Cruel. Heartless. Unjustified. Immoral.
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Old 11-04-2020, 03:57 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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So?

In a situation like this involving children, you have to assume that the adult saying they are the parent, is.
You take names, you keep records or who is who, so when the time comes to deport, you deport them together.

What happened here, if not just plain cruelty, is total incompetence.
Children are brought in by people who are not their parents.

US use of DNA tests on the adults and children to prove that they were related did not go over well.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/p...were-unrelated

https://alumni.berkeley.edu/californ...reat-to-us-all

How do you know any names you are given are legitimate?
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Old 11-04-2020, 04:48 PM
 
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I mean, we throw american parents in prison all the time, and more often than not, children suffer the consequences and grow without a dad and/or mom.

I think we ahould get rid of prison.

Think of the children!!!
Many advocate for that. When you ask what should be done with rapists and murderers they never answer.
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Old 11-04-2020, 04:54 PM
 
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These are CHILDREN!! You seem very comfortable dehumanizing them, like many others here. Reminds me of tactics used, oh, say, 80 years ago in some European countries.
So adopt one or financially support them. Step up or shut up. Don't be a hypocrite. I don't want my tax dollars going to them but I'm sure you can make contact and they'll take your money. How about it? How much would you be willing to donate? $100? $500? They're kids! It's only money.

Well?
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Old 11-04-2020, 06:27 PM
 
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How in the hell are these so-called kids being dehumanized? Just because we don't want to support them as they entered our country illegally how is that dehumanization? How is it dehumanizing to send them back over the border from whence they came? Apparently their parents don't consider them to be human as they don't seem to be coming for them.
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