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Old 11-12-2020, 02:30 PM
 
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Hood betrayed the US, sided with the CSA....is being honored by the US with a base name.

Washingon, betrayed the brits, sided with the US and is honored by the US.....but not the people that he betrayed.

Citing Washington as an excuse for Hood is thus an illogical comparison and why I asked if the Brits had a base named after Washington because that would be the equivalent.

Your comments addressed other things but not the core point that the Washington-Hood argument is logically DOA.
OK that's fine. My view is that had Britain won the Revolutionary War and decided to treat it as more of a Civil War and be lenient and for reconciliation and shown respect for figures like Washington that would been fine. And I think that is the mentality or sensitivity to what if the Patriots had lost and were treated harshly by Britain being applied to those who fought for the CSA.
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Old 11-12-2020, 02:32 PM
 
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I’m not so sure if it’ll happen, but I like the name change and Ray Benavidez’s military legacy. He’s certainly a worthy man to name a Texas fort after...seeing as how he’s also a native Texan.

Hood was a Confederate, not from Texas at all (he did serve in Pre-Civil War Texas however), and served in rebellion against the United States. So it just doesn’t make sense to name an installation after him.

Moreover, I like the idea of naming a Post after an enlisted man, being a former NCO myself.



In any case, I’m not sure what the hurdles will be in renaming a Post. Obvious it’ll have to be after Trump leaves, but that’ll be soon enough.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...outputType=amp
Leave it alone tired of changing names on things.
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Old 11-12-2020, 02:33 PM
 
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But what if the MOH winner did something at some point in his life that someone would find offensive?

Or God forbid, voted for the wrong candidate?

Just name it after a place and end the madness.
Or just leave long standing names alone and end the madness.
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Old 11-12-2020, 02:35 PM
 
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Hey, whatever happened to that ship the British named after Hood? A little historical humor....
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Old 11-12-2020, 02:36 PM
 
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Or just leave long standing names alone and end the madness.
I wish we could, to be honest. But you and I both know we are way past that point as a country. Or whatever we have left that masquerades as a country.
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Old 11-12-2020, 02:40 PM
 
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I wish we could, to be honest. But you and I both know we are way past that point as a country. Or whatever we have left that masquerades as a country.
Yeah but I'm not going to agree to it and give in. Democrats and identity group activism are destroying the country step by step and while there's maybe no stopping it I'm not going to agree to the tiniest little step like this one.
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Old 11-12-2020, 02:45 PM
 
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Just saw this................

https://www.military.com/daily-news/...C=eb_201112.nl
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Old 11-12-2020, 02:55 PM
 
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^^^Well said.

I have a relative lying in an unmarked grave in KY having walked there from IL to fight for the union. I'm not a fan of naming US bases etc. after military people from another country (CSA) that founght us.

Maybe we can have Fort Rommel?
Lol...I’m actually a big fan of Erwin Rommel. He’s my favorite WW2 General. Wish I could go back in time and fight against his Afrika Corps. I’m fascinated by that campaign.
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I think it is past time to rename all the bases that were named after confederate officers. I also think it’s past time to round up all the confederate monuments and put as many of them in museums as possible. They shouldn’t be destroyed or toppled, though.

But taking them out of the public square and putting them in a place where people can view them as a piece of history if they want to seems very reasonable.

The Stone Mountain memorial is very problematic and I’m not sure what to do about that. It shouldn’t be blown up, nor should it be allowed to stay as is.

We aren’t the ISIS caliphate where we must destroy every single artifact because it offends us.

As far as what the bases should be named, I’d just go with geographic names and leave it at that. They don’t have to be named after people.
It’s not about political correctness or anything such as that.

It is highly illogical to commemorate your enemies in this way. Hood killed thousands of Americans in his quest to keep slaves.

That’s offensive to anyone with a sense of decency.


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I would be all in with all army forts named after an army enlisted man who is an MOH winner from their state..........
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But what if the MOH winner did something at some point in his life that someone would find offensive?

Or God forbid, voted for the wrong candidate?

Just name it after a place and end the madness.
Benavidez is the perfect candidate.
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If for no other reason.........Army enlisted men hardly ever get any recognition...........

I love how there are stories after stories about the brave pilots of hueys in vietnam........all officers. Hardly a word about the guys in the back covering their asses with a door gun..........
Tell me about it.,.
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Old 11-12-2020, 03:00 PM
 
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Or just leave long standing names alone and end the madness.
Nah. No can do. It’s time to stick a dagger in the Confederacy’s Lost Cause Mythology. It’s been allowed fo fester too long without opposition.

It all has to come down just like Jim Crow did. We can’t leave any vestiges of it laying around. This thing has to be made right.
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Old 11-12-2020, 03:47 PM
 
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Fort Mackintosh, but which one - the Union General, or his brother, a Confederate General?
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