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Old 12-21-2020, 08:35 PM
 
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Trump's crowd tends to accuse others of what they are guilty of. As the dust settles, we're finding more and more evidence of Trump trying to steal the election, not Biden. Deceptive tactics with fake ballot boxes, registering fake relatives, trying to send their own sets of electors, trying to get governors to overturn election results, etc.

 
Old 12-21-2020, 08:36 PM
 
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Old 12-21-2020, 08:54 PM
 
Location: Denver CO
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Originally Posted by AnywhereElse View Post
In the case of election fraud when it comes to stealing votes for Trump, there were considerably more than 2 votes. That isn't even comparing "apples with oranges", more like comparing a "pea with a giant pumpkin".

Most of the dead are simply illegal aliens having stolen the identities of American citizens, and probably nursing home admin voting for the dead who they have had guardianship for, where they were probably voting for the person without their knowledge when they were alive.
lol

Sure, the normal reaction to a documented case of voter fraud is to say "so, what, I can claim that way more fraud happened on the other side" - but of course you don't have a shred of proof or some of these people you claim committed fraud would have been arrested too, just like this cheating Trump supporter

Except, oops, zero proof of fraud by Dems. Just a big fat loss by Trump who will be ignobly evicted from the White House in 29 days
 
Old 12-21-2020, 09:18 PM
 
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Well now in a strange twist of fate, after weeks of hearing about Biden fraud election. We finally found the fraud in Pennsylvania.

wait, he cheated to vote for Trump.


https://www.inquirer.com/news/bruce-...-20201221.html


come on, I can't be the only one smiling about a little thing called Karma


In the weeks leading up to the presidential election, Elizabeth Bartman and Elizabeth Weihman registered to vote as Republicans in Nether Providence Township, Delaware County officials said Monday. There was one problem: Both women had been dead for several years.

The man behind those applications, Bruce Bartman, now faces two felony counts of perjury, as well as one count of unlawful voting for successfully casting an absentee ballot for President Donald Trump
To be clear -- this is the third Republican charged with fraud in PA.

So the system works -- it catches them -- and there isn't significant fraud -- but there are some criminals and they are getting caught.
 
Old 12-21-2020, 09:57 PM
 
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The Pubs say they have 1,000 sworn affidavits from election workers who witnessed election fraud.

Why won't the courts listen to what these people have to say?

Some have very specific verbal evidence, that could be easily verified, or refuted, with the courts help. I've read many of their accounts, & they seem very real to me.

This isn't making any sense. Not even allowing video evidence that clearly shows after hour counting by Dems in a State that was decided by 10,000 votes seems insane. Even Dems must be wondering about that case. If they came out and said the video's a fake, then okay...but they are not.

These are not all Democrat inserted Judges either, which makes it even weirder.

It all appears contrived to me now....unreal....artificial. I feel like I'm living in "The Truman Show" movie.

I know in one case the courts said the Pubs didn't have standing. So go find someone with standing, and bring the suit back the next day....duh!

Are we all living in some kind of artificial existence? Is there a crack in the Matrix? Is it all scripted?

And now, suddenly, a tidal wave of evidence against the Biden family crime syndicate is being shoved down our throats by the media. They are forming a special grand jury to convict the Biden's. Why let Joe become President, then hold his family accountable? You know holding them accountable, will lead back to Joe.

Is this just a plan to insert Kamala Harris into the office of President, after the Dems rejected her in the Primaries? It can't be that, because Joe could just as easily be shown to be incompetent in a few months, & reach the same goal, with a lot less effort. That is a head fake.

None of this is what it appears. The Puppet Masters are conducting a show, & we are the stars, but don't see it. Right now, the script has the Dems coming out on top, is that a mirage? Does act 2 take some odd turn?

Is this all a master plan to get us to start killing each other, so the gov't can re-set us into a new way of life, using the military? Note the stories this morning about arrests in DC after the otherwide peaceful pro-Trump gathering. Someone is trying as hard as they can to stir us into a violent frenzy.

I ain't falling for it. I reject their hate baiting. It's past time for Reds & Blues to join forces, to reject Washington DC, and the corruption there, in our media, & in our economy. We need to take it all back.

We need to start directing our frustration toward the source of our unrest, & its not each other! It's the top 1%. It's never been clearer to me than it is now. We are all being played.

If we came together now, at this moment of unrest, they would FREAK OUT! We need to take it all away from them, because they are all corrupt power hungry parasites.
I agree. It’s really sad to see how immediately people start the left v right fighting rather than considering the truth of what you’re saying.
Americans are now the useful idiots of the elites. They’re sitting back laughing their a$$es off at the BS we fall for. The only way all of us can prevent loss of our freedoms and enslavement is a revolution for and by the people against the elite tyrannical maniacs. God help us.
 
Old 12-21-2020, 10:31 PM
 
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Well now in a strange twist of fate, after weeks of hearing about Biden fraud election. We finally found the fraud in Pennsylvania.

wait, he cheated to vote for Trump.


https://www.inquirer.com/news/bruce-...-20201221.html


come on, I can't be the only one smiling about a little thing called Karma


In the weeks leading up to the presidential election, Elizabeth Bartman and Elizabeth Weihman registered to vote as Republicans in Nether Providence Township, Delaware County officials said Monday. There was one problem: Both women had been dead for several years.

The man behind those applications, Bruce Bartman, now faces two felony counts of perjury, as well as one count of unlawful voting for successfully casting an absentee ballot for President Donald Trump
Probably the first of a few. I mean, not like anyone didn't see some Trumplican responding in exactly the way Bruce Bartmen did to the baseless allegations. If the Dims can get away with it with such impunity, why not get in on that action.

Of course then you look at how the legal system treats felons charged with perjury and voter fraud. Lawyer waltzes in and goes "Oh, he's very, very sorry and made a big mistake and takes full responsibility." And off he goes out of jail on unsecured bond, which means he agrees to show up in court or be fined $100,000. Nothing out of his pocket. Apple to donuts he spends some weekends in a some minimum security facility and picks up some trash.

You want to nip this crap in the bud? Start making examples out of people and start treating voter fraud as a serious crime. Toss him in an actual prison where felons belong for a few years. Never happens though.
 
Old 12-22-2020, 01:06 AM
 
Location: Louisiana
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You just affirmed that the CCP and COVID helped Trump.

Thanks, as I suspected.
If you think that the ChiComs wanted Trump over Beijing Biden, you're beyond hope.
 
Old 12-22-2020, 01:47 AM
 
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Election Fraud

This thread, with all its bogus claims of fraud, continues to mimic the frantic, delusional and illegal musings and actions of Donald Trump and his despicable & un-American endeavor to steal the election.

It has been nearly 7 weeks since we the people spoke and clearly rejected the lawless authoritarian's misogynistic, xenophobic and racist presidency. It is time to stop paying attention to this sore loser and those who continue to spread his conspiracies, advance his lies and agitate for his attempted coup of democracy.

Anything that aids and abets doubts about an election that has been conducted with integrity---such as this election which was the most secure in the history of the United States--- makes the future of democracy darker. Donald Trump and his Republican supporters are trying to weaken our faith in the fundamental institution of our self-government and it is inexcusable. It is loathsome as it goes beyond politics and deep into the foundation of our Constitution and our guiding principles. He and his cultish followers are deliberately prolonging this ignorant nonsense as part of a partisan minority power play which is putting their party over the people.

Having assaulted so many other norms in the last 4 years, Trump, and posters such as those in this thread, now threaten lasting damage to our nation. Don't let them. It is far past time to ignore him and their seditious crazy talk and be a part of returning democracy to government in these United States of America. He will be escorted out of the White House if he chooses not to leave, although I suspect he will be long gone before the 20th, as he needs to firmly establish his latest con to monetize the presidency in his twilight years. Apparently his loyalists never tire of being bilked.

There was no election fraud. The only fraud in this saga is Donald J. Trump.
Integrity? What part about coving windows and running off poll watchers has your so called integrity? The election Is for we the people and if we the people want to watch our votes being counted then we should be allowed to and not have cheaters cover windows and not allow inspection of machines...
 
Old 12-22-2020, 03:22 AM
 
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Trump's crowd tends to accuse others of what they are guilty of. As the dust settles, we're finding more and more evidence of Trump trying to steal the election, not Biden. Deceptive tactics with fake ballot boxes, registering fake relatives, trying to send their own sets of electors, trying to get governors to overturn election results, etc.
Not to mention the dozens of lawsuits with no merit whatsoever.

One about the SCOTUS overturning the election, was brought by nearly twenty Republican states, and supported by over a hundred Republican legislators. Unsurprisingly, SCOTUS refused to get involved in their attempt to overthrow the government.

With Giuliani, Flynn, Powell, Stone, Bannon, ... as advisors, who knows what attempts at election fraud are next.
 
Old 12-22-2020, 03:35 AM
 
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To be clear -- this is the third Republican charged with fraud in PA.

So the system works -- it catches them -- and there isn't significant fraud -- but there are some criminals and they are getting caught.
There were a couple voters in North Carolina caught the same way.

In 2016, a woman got off facing any charges as she claimed it was her mother's dying wish to vote for Trump.

There was the ballot harvesting that year too. It took a fair amount of door to door effort and I don't remember the number of votes involved, but it was nowhere near 7 million.

While there are obvious efforts to obstruct the vote, keep people from voting, gerrymander district to make sure the votes for one party make less impact, ... These efforts have far more impact that a handful of morons here and there.
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