All About The Vaccines (conspiracy, deaths, compared, state)
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Lol. The number of people a person can give it to is proportional to time during which the person is contagious.
Why the lol? Time during which the person is contagious is only part of transmission process. Number of contacts is another. I'm seeing a lot of vaccinated people making up for lost time.
If they are contagious for 3 to 4 days, and have 500 more contacts....that is not a win, except for maybe a gold medal in Covid virtue signaling.
Reality is the odds of a vaccinated person catching covid and spreading it for 4 days is very low. So its not just 4 day vs. 10 days.
But I think all people should be free to roam bars, etc. Let Delta rip! I don't want vaccine passports or any draconian measures. If people are nervous going into a bar or going anywhere, don't go. Lots of ways of having anything you want delivered.
It's not really that low. It's much more common than we think though ... a lot of it due CDC stopping the tracking of breatkthrough cases in May. How convenient.
The thought is that with Delta, breakthroughs are between 5-20% of overall cases.
Why the lol? Time during which the person is contagious is only part of transmission process. Number of contacts is another. I'm seeing a lot of vaccinated people making up for lost time.
If they are contagious for 3 to 4 days, and have 500 more contacts....that is not a win, except for maybe a gold medal in Covid virtue signaling.
Most vaccinated people I know are not hanging out in bars every night. But perhaps you know some exceptions.
Why the lol? Time during which the person is contagious is only part of transmission process. Number of contacts is another. I'm seeing a lot of vaccinated people making up for lost time.
If they are contagious for 3 to 4 days, and have 500 more contacts....that is not a win, except for maybe a gold medal in Covid virtue signaling.
I agree. Encouraging vaccinated people to run around and act like the pandemic is no longer an issue for them is dumb. No shortage of dumb in regards to the government response to the pandemic.
Reality is the odds of a vaccinated person catching covid and spreading it for 4 days is very low. So its not just 4 day vs. 10 days.
But I think all people should be free to roam bars, etc. Let Delta rip! I don't want vaccine passports or any draconian measures. If people are nervous going into a bar or going anywhere, don't go. Lots of ways of having anything you want delivered.
I'm in favor of freedom for all. I understand the odds, but human behavior contains a lot of variability. Especially after a year plus where people were denied normal human contact. Also that 10 days isn't necessarily 10 days. It's 'up to' 10 days. Some people clear the virus very quickly. Some people don't seem to get Covid at all, for reasons we don't understand. This dividing line between the un-vaxxed and vaxxed isn't firm enough--or consistent enough-- to base restrictions and stigmatization on--is all I'm saying.
It's not really that low. It's much more common than we think though ... a lot of it due CDC stopping the tracking of breatkthrough cases in May. How convenient.
The thought is that with Delta, breakthroughs are between 5-20% of overall cases.
Most vaccinated people I know are not hanging out in bars every night. But perhaps you know some exceptions.
As I said, bars, restaurants, travel, gyms...they are living life to make up for living under restrictions for so long. Yes, I know people like that, not just 'exceptions.'
And I'm okay with them spreading a virus which is everywhere already. I'm not okay with this arbitrary dividing line. In NYC it's ironic that the restaurants have rats which might be a reservoir. The streets are filled with garbage, needles, vomit, urine and feces. The vaccinated patrons could be carrying covid. But sure, let's ban the unvaccinated. Sounds reasonable
I'm in favor of freedom for all. I understand the odds, but human behavior contains a lot of variability. Especially after a year plus where people were denied normal human contact. Also that 10 days isn't necessarily 10 days. It's 'up to' 10 days. Some people clear the virus very quickly. Some people don't seem to get Covid at all, for reasons we don't understand. This dividing line between the un-vaxxed and vaxxed isn't firm enough--or consistent enough-- to base restrictions and stigmatization on--is all I'm saying.
I completely agree. The stats are not definitive with anything. It is what we have, but none of it is proving to be gospel. I am sure we all know situations that don't fit the claims.
Both brilliant young scientist who through a series of bad decisions end up on the outside looking in at the results of the work they helped create. Both lived a life with financial troubles while their former colleges cashed in with millions. WW becomes "Heisenberg" and moves to the dark side of drug cartels and meth addicts. Malone moves over to the ultimate dark side of the world for a vaccine scientist of the anti vaxxers. Malone can now play the role of spoiler and rain on their parade.
Seems like Malone has a personal motive and probably a financial one to say what he says. I did not know that before I read the story.
As I said, bars, restaurants, travel, gyms...they are living life to make up for living under restrictions for so long. Yes, I know people like that, not just 'exceptions.'
And I'm okay with them spreading a virus which is everywhere already. I'm not okay with this arbitrary dividing line. In NYC it's ironic that the restaurants have rats which might be a reservoir. The streets are filled with garbage, needles, vomit, urine and feces. The vaccinated patrons could be carrying covid. But sure, let's ban the unvaccinated. Sounds reasonable
Vaccinated crew on Carnival cruise test positive for covid along with a few passengers. How many passengers will they infect? Who would want even a mild case of covid while trying to enjoy your cruise assuming all the passengers are vaccinated?
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