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Old 06-18-2021, 06:24 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Originally Posted by CtrlEsc View Post
The vaccine does not prevent you from getting infected. It protects you from severe COVID19. You can still get it (although mildly.) You can still transmit the virus.

The more you say, the more I doubt your knowledge.

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/co...cinated-177528
https://www.verywellhealth.com/covid...nation-5115630
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-...till-get-after

I pointed out "eradication" because some people believe that if everyone gets vaccinated, the virus will magically disappear.
No, the vaccines are not 100% effective, but they are better than 90% effective in preventing infection, not just symptoms. People who are vaccinated who do get infected have lower viral loads and are less likely to spread the virus.

https://www.contagionlive.com/view/p...ease-in-israel

https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2...-Vaccines.html

https://www.healthline.com/health/ad...matic-covid-19

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-021-01316-7

 
Old 06-18-2021, 06:46 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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No, the vaccines are not 100% effective, but they are better than 90% effective in preventing infection, not just symptoms. People who are vaccinated who do get infected have lower viral loads and are less likely to spread the virus.

https://www.contagionlive.com/view/p...ease-in-israel

https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2...-Vaccines.html

https://www.healthline.com/health/ad...matic-covid-19

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-021-01316-7
So you get symptoms but not an infection... how does that work? It just magically makes you feel bad when in your proximity?

You get infected with the virus. Your body fights off the infection. You may or may not have symptoms. You still have a viral load. It may be low enough that you are not sufficiently shedding enough virus to infect others easily.

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Old 06-18-2021, 06:52 PM
 
Location: Hoosierville
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Since I'm certainly NOT going to read thru this whole thread. Just wondering if anyone else here chose NOT to do any of these unapproved jabs? Since day 1 with all this, I've followed very closely the FrontLine Doctors and they all claim 4-6 yrs is the time line for vaccine/drug approvals. And often longer. So so so much is unknown and new data comes out just about daily on injuries and even deaths from the mass vaccines.

I take no vaccines and work to keep my own natural immune system Strong. Trust it before I'd ever trust the drugs.
You would be irritated if you read the whole thread.

But no, I'm not getting the vaccine.

I've traveled the entire time. I've pretty much licked the subway in NYC and I'm fine.

I've had the flu twice in about 30 years and I never get the flu vaccine either.

I'm not an anti-vaxxer though ... as much as people would like to label me as such.

I'm pro choice. And pro information. And anti censorship.
 
Old 06-18-2021, 07:08 PM
 
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More censorship and lying in the name of the almighty vaccine, DENY at all costs!

4 British pilots conspicuously dead after the notorious 2nd jab... seriously, how hard is it to move to a single jab protocol, lets just keep killing perfectly healthy people with little chance of covid death.. - LINK

British Airways Coverup: Four Pilots Dead in One Week But Airline Obfuscates on Vaccine Connection - LINK
Looks like a bunch of speculation with no sources or links. Not even the names of the pilots. Seems one of them died from Covid complications after 240+ days in hospital. Way to respect him by turning his death into an anti vax campaign. The fear porn drums louder and louder.

https://www.news18.com/news/buzz/bri...l-3836441.html

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Old 06-18-2021, 07:59 PM
 
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Looks like a bunch of speculation with no sources or links. Not even the names of the pilots. Seems one of them died from Covid complications after 240+ days in hospital. Way to respect him by turning his death into an anti vax campaign. The fear porn drums louder and louder.

https://www.news18.com/news/buzz/bri...l-3836441.html
The insider specifically said 3 people died after the 2nd shot, I even quoted it. AP reported there were 4 people. But go ahead and hide behind the 4th guy. I know, I know... acceptable losses.

As the article concludes, they wont address the simple question of when they had the vax..

Maybe they would have chosen something a little safer if they knew about Ivermectin.
 
Old 06-18-2021, 08:10 PM
 
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The insider specifically said 3 people died after the 2nd shot, I even quoted it. AP reported there were 4 people. But go ahead and hide behind the 4th guy. I know, I know... acceptable losses.

As the article concludes, they wont address the simple question of when they had the vax..

Maybe they would have chosen something a little safer if they knew about Ivermectin.
Then your headline that says 4 British pilots conspicuously dead after the notorious 2nd jab is misleading. Get back to us when you have more sources and it’s confirmed they died from the vaccine. Until then it’s nothing more than speculation and assumptions.
 
Old 06-18-2021, 08:35 PM
 
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Most people don’t want to know the truth.
Its not only that MissTerri,they think what they are being told IS THE TRUTH!!
 
Old 06-18-2021, 08:44 PM
 
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2 workers died of Covid this week and 3 more currently hospitalized at Manatee County Florida. County commissioner that didn't want to get vaccinated, immediately went to get vaccinated upon learning of the 2nd employee's death today.

https://www.bradenton.com/news/coron...252212853.html

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A COVID-19 outbreak that killed two IT staffers in Manatee County government and hospitalized three others has forced the shutdown of the county’s administrative building in downtown Bradenton. Both staffers who have died, a man and a woman, were in their 50’s. Those who were hospitalized were as young as their late 30’s

On Friday, however, one commissioner who hadn’t been interested in the vaccine left Hopes’ office and immediately went to get vaccinated

On Monday, one of four IT staffers who had been hospitalized with COVID-19 died, according to Hopes. A fifth IT staffer who went to the doctor on Wednesday, died at home Thursday from COVID-19.
One staffer in the department who worked closely with the other five and didn’t contract the coronavirus was vaccinated. All five who contracted the virus had a sore throat as their initial primary complaint.
 
Old 06-18-2021, 08:47 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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So you get symptoms but not an infection... how does that work? It just magically makes you feel bad when in your proximity?

You get infected with the virus. Your body fights off the infection. You may or may not have symptoms. You still have a viral load. It may be low enough that you are not sufficiently shedding enough virus to infect others easily.
If you are not infected at all you have no symptoms of the disease because you do not have the disease.

The vaccines are about 90% effective in preventing infection.

Vaccinated folks who do get infected have a lower viral load than unvaccinated people who get infected.
 
Old 06-18-2021, 08:57 PM
 
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Originally Posted by jaminhealth
Since I'm certainly NOT going to read thru this whole thread. Just wondering if anyone else here chose NOT to do any of these unapproved jabs?
Im sure there are alot here Jamin who wont take this under any conditions and Im sure they would fight if they tried to force it!!!!
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