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But I will start with no one is seeing the side of MAGAs. Countless articles and books HAVE been dedicated to understanding "the white man's plight" (yes there is some snark there, which proves the OPs point). I WOULD say it is more understanding them from a political standpoint than empathy.
It is HARD to empathize with a group that seems more intent on hating others (blacks, hispanics, immigrants, muslims, gays, women's rights). If they could verbalize something positive they stand for? That is not something "against" others? It appears that no conspiracy theory is too "out there" for them, which alienates even MORE people
BLM is a sympathetic group. They are against police brutality (is anyone FOR it?), and equal rights (is anyone AGAINST that?).
Perhaps MAGA needs to work more on communicating some type of positive message. Honestly, mounting an insurrection doesn't help.
I've heard MAGA interviewed with reasonable questions, and the answers are rarely reasonable. I cringe. I do realize the media chooses what interviews to publish, so I try to keep that in mind.
BUT, I talk to my neighbors and they freely spout the same, things that are just untrue. Comments about laws in CA, that are easy to directly fact check, and they just go around parroting crazy stuff.
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But I will start with no one is seeing the side of MAGAs. Countless articles and books HAVE been dedicated to understanding "the white man's plight" (yes there is some snark there, which proves the OPs point). I WOULD say it is more understanding them from a political standpoint than empathy.
It is HARD to empathize with a group that seems more intent on hating others (blacks, hispanics, immigrants, muslims, gays, women's rights). If they could verbalize something positive they stand for? That is not something "against" others? It appears that no conspiracy theory is too "out there" for them, which alienates even MORE people
BLM is a sympathetic group. They are against police brutality (is anyone FOR it?), and equal rights (is anyone AGAINST that?).
Perhaps MAGA needs to work more on communicating some type of positive message. Honestly, mounting an insurrection doesn't help.
I've heard MAGA interviewed with reasonable questions, and the answers are rarely reasonable. I cringe. I do realize the media chooses what interviews to publish, so I try to keep that in mind.
BUT, I talk to my neighbors and they freely spout the same, things that are just untrue. Comments about laws in CA, that are easy to directly fact check, and they just go around parroting crazy stuff.
BLM is an openly MARXIST/COMMUNIST organization, give me a break
Whether BLM people are going about it the right way is a whole nother path of discussions but, sans carrying around any paraphernalia, what personal prejudices have any of the people carrying around Confederate flags inside the Capitol faced?
But I will start with no one is seeing the side of MAGAs. Countless articles and books HAVE been dedicated to understanding "the white man's plight" (yes there is some snark there, which proves the OPs point). I WOULD say it is more understanding them from a political standpoint than empathy.
Speaking of empathy, I didn't realize all conservatives or MAGA types were white males.
Obvious Double Standards will destroy America if they aren't changed. Segregation would destroy America if it wasn't eventually changed. The media's double standard in reporting will also destroy America if it isn't changed.
Good read by Simon Black. I will sum it up and add some things to it.
People need to have their anger heard even if they are wrong. Someone dismissing your anger feels like betrayal.
After the Floyd killing people felt that their concerns had been completely dismissed for years. Already angry and disgusted many resorted to an exploding rage that resulted in looting, rioting, arson, violence, and rising murder rates in cities.
The mainstream media empathized with them. Politicians took knees wearing African clothing. Minneapolis' mayor cried over his "brokenness."
While mass destruction was taking place that had already seen over 1,000 police officers injured, billions and billions in property damage, and a couple dozen of lives directly dead by riots and hundreds indirectly as murder rates spiked Kamala Harris went on TV, didn't denounce the violence and destruction, didn't distinguish between nonviolence and chaos, but rather said "They’re not going to stop. And everyone beware. Because they’re not going to stop before Election Day in November, and they’re not going to stop after Election Day . . . they’re not going to let up, and they should not.” The media accepted it.
The media presented this in the best possible of light as well as the riots.
Media members literally stood in front of building on fire from arson and reported that it was a "protest" that was "mostly peaceful."
Seattle's mayor called a lawless take over of city blocks causing mass property damage and the inability of some to move freely a "summer of love."
In August a BLM leader said at a rally in DC "I’m at the point where I want to put these police in a f--king grave. I’m at the point where I’m ready to burn the f--king White House down. I want to take it to the Senators. I want to take it to the Congress. I want to take the fight to them. And at the end of the day, if they ain’t gonna to hear us, we burn them the f--k down.” People chanted for a revolution.
The Associated Press, a trend setter for reporting specifically stated that riots shouldn't be called riots, riots should be called unrest. Rioters should be called protestors. Bending over backwards to empathize.
The media and many politicians responded with “We hear you, and we understand your anger. We want to help fix it.” That is what hurt people need to hear. Even if some of their facts are wrong. They need to hear that before you can have an honest discussion.
Empathy leads to respect and understanding.
The empathy is not a two way street.
If you oppose the lockdowns or masks, even if you might be misguided you are censored online and labeled nuts or a far right wing militia type. Did the mainstream media empathize - not really, no.
January 6th's actions were horrible in my opinion - disgusting. But did the media empathize at all? The media called it treason, which by constitutional definition it was not. Compared it to Pearl Harbor where over 2,000 Americans died in a surprise attack that led to a war where 420,000 Americans died in. Yet BLM people in masses chanting for revolutions, chanting to burn down the system is arson is happening isn't treason?
During the BLM riots, Vox ran articles promoting the riots as scary but effective at social change. Did Vox offer that same line of thinking for any conservative riot (I know of only two off the top of my head the past year)? No.
These protestors were awful. Most of the protestors didn't break into the capitol building. Why wasn't it "mostly peaceful?"
There are countless Americans that feel lied to and betrayed by their own country for years, which enabled a man like Trump to win in 2016.
I think the protestors are wrong in action and thought. I see ZERO concrete evidence that a single state let alone multiple states were flipped.
But for the mainstream media to refuse to empathize with the group that feels lockdowns do more damage, that feel the government has sold out average Americans for years, that feel there is real election fraud while doing the same for leftist rioters, it will do more harm than good.
This double standard needs to end.
Condemn all rioting, period, but empathize with those who are angry and listen.
The BLM/Pantifa riots were directed at the American people. It was common people who's businesses and neighborhoods were looted and burned. Average Americans who were stopped in traffic blockades and dragged from their cars and beaten. Ordinary Americans that were threatened with violence and had their homes vandalized when these domestic terrorists descended on residential areas. Law enforcement, middle class Americans, attacked with explosives, Molotov Cocktails and fire bombed at their place of employment.
All of those things were supported not just by left-wing nutjob extremists-but by leaders of the Democratic party. Biden has never condemned those behind these acts. He has never condemned BLM. He pretends Antifa doesn't exist and calls them "an idea". Guess what dumba**, ideas don't burn buildings, block traffic or drag people from their cars. Biden's own staff-and VP supported and financed these domestic terrorists, to the point of bailing them out of jail and putting them back on the streets-allowing them to continue to terrorize American citizens. All while whining "defund the police". Lawmakers-and our MSM, were perfectly fine and supportive of these riots and demonstrations, so long as it was just normal American citizens being terrorized.
But now-when the demonstrations are targeted where they should have been in the first place, at our political leadership-it's a different story. I don't hear Nancy, Maxine or Chuckie demanding that the Capitol Police be replaced by social workers-even after shooing an unarmed woman at point-blank range-for trespassing. The utter hypocrisy of our media and lawmakers is disgusting.
But I will start with no one is seeing the side of MAGAs. Countless articles and books HAVE been dedicated to understanding "the white man's plight" (yes there is some snark there, which proves the OPs point). I WOULD say it is more understanding them from a political standpoint than empathy.
It is HARD to empathize with a group that seems more intent on hating others (blacks, hispanics, immigrants, muslims, gays, women's rights). If they could verbalize something positive they stand for? That is not something "against" others? It appears that no conspiracy theory is too "out there" for them, which alienates even MORE people
BLM is a sympathetic group. They are against police brutality (is anyone FOR it?), and equal rights (is anyone AGAINST that?).
Perhaps MAGA needs to work more on communicating some type of positive message. Honestly, mounting an insurrection doesn't help.
I've heard MAGA interviewed with reasonable questions, and the answers are rarely reasonable. I cringe. I do realize the media chooses what interviews to publish, so I try to keep that in mind.
BUT, I talk to my neighbors and they freely spout the same, things that are just untrue. Comments about laws in CA, that are easy to directly fact check, and they just go around parroting crazy stuff.
The mainstream media you see drives this racial division. MAGA isn't about Trump, it's about Make America Great Again. It's about getting our jobs back from overseas, and EVERYONE (White Black Asian Latino Native-American Gay Lesbian) being able to climb the financial wealth ladder. It's governments job to provide this opportunity through reasonable taxes, tariff's, and other protections. Instead, we've had politicians lining their own pockets with foreign interests money while outsourcing our jobs for decades, while we have cities full of people on welfare in section 8 housing.
Media has been the enemy of the people long enough to manipulate the country. Look at who owns the media, who works for the media, who’s on their boards, and you will see who are the enemy of the people.
Obvious Double Standards will destroy America if they aren't changed. Segregation would destroy America if it wasn't eventually changed. The media's double standard in reporting will also destroy America if it isn't changed.
Good read by Simon Black. I will sum it up and add some things to it.
People need to have their anger heard even if they are wrong. Someone dismissing your anger feels like betrayal.
After the Floyd killing people felt that their concerns had been completely dismissed for years. Already angry and disgusted many resorted to an exploding rage that resulted in looting, rioting, arson, violence, and rising murder rates in cities.
The mainstream media empathized with them. Politicians took knees wearing African clothing. Minneapolis' mayor cried over his "brokenness."
While mass destruction was taking place that had already seen over 1,000 police officers injured, billions and billions in property damage, and a couple dozen of lives directly dead by riots and hundreds indirectly as murder rates spiked Kamala Harris went on TV, didn't denounce the violence and destruction, didn't distinguish between nonviolence and chaos, but rather said "They’re not going to stop. And everyone beware. Because they’re not going to stop before Election Day in November, and they’re not going to stop after Election Day . . . they’re not going to let up, and they should not.” The media accepted it.
The media presented this in the best possible of light as well as the riots.
Media members literally stood in front of building on fire from arson and reported that it was a "protest" that was "mostly peaceful."
Seattle's mayor called a lawless take over of city blocks causing mass property damage and the inability of some to move freely a "summer of love."
In August a BLM leader said at a rally in DC "I’m at the point where I want to put these police in a f--king grave. I’m at the point where I’m ready to burn the f--king White House down. I want to take it to the Senators. I want to take it to the Congress. I want to take the fight to them. And at the end of the day, if they ain’t gonna to hear us, we burn them the f--k down.” People chanted for a revolution.
The Associated Press, a trend setter for reporting specifically stated that riots shouldn't be called riots, riots should be called unrest. Rioters should be called protestors. Bending over backwards to empathize.
The media and many politicians responded with “We hear you, and we understand your anger. We want to help fix it.” That is what hurt people need to hear. Even if some of their facts are wrong. They need to hear that before you can have an honest discussion.
Empathy leads to respect and understanding.
The empathy is not a two way street.
If you oppose the lockdowns or masks, even if you might be misguided you are censored online and labeled nuts or a far right wing militia type. Did the mainstream media empathize - not really, no.
January 6th's actions were horrible in my opinion - disgusting. But did the media empathize at all? The media called it treason, which by constitutional definition it was not. Compared it to Pearl Harbor where over 2,000 Americans died in a surprise attack that led to a war where 420,000 Americans died in. Yet BLM people in masses chanting for revolutions, chanting to burn down the system is arson is happening isn't treason?
During the BLM riots, Vox ran articles promoting the riots as scary but effective at social change. Did Vox offer that same line of thinking for any conservative riot (I know of only two off the top of my head the past year)? No.
These protestors were awful. Most of the protestors didn't break into the capitol building. Why wasn't it "mostly peaceful?"
There are countless Americans that feel lied to and betrayed by their own country for years, which enabled a man like Trump to win in 2016.
I think the protestors are wrong in action and thought. I see ZERO concrete evidence that a single state let alone multiple states were flipped.
But for the mainstream media to refuse to empathize with the group that feels lockdowns do more damage, that feel the government has sold out average Americans for years, that feel there is real election fraud while doing the same for leftist rioters, it will do more harm than good.
This double standard needs to end.
Condemn all rioting, period, but empathize with those who are angry and listen.
Excellent post. The media drives narratives in service of their Democrat masters. What's disturbing is how many out there are stupid enough to believe them.
How much empathy do you think people carrying Confederate flags into the Capitol building deserve ?
About the same amount as those who were burning cities and federal buildings last summer all over America.
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