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Not true they are God's chosen people how can they go o hell?
Shh, this is an anti-Protestant thread devoid of truth and full of false claims.
In reality I doubt there is any non-Jewish group more pro-Jewish and pro-Israel than American Protestants. And I believe it's always been that way from the tradition of reading and relating to the bible.
Not true they are God's chosen people how can they go o hell?
Yes, they can, and many will. But many Jews also believe in the Messiah, who is of course according to the Jewish scriptures a Jew, and according to Christianity, the Lord Jesus Christ. It is clearly communicated in the Jewish scriptures that those who are the children of God are the children of the promise, and not the children of the flesh.
This is explained excellently well by Paul, who was not only a Jew, but trained and educated by the Jews as a Pharisee, in the book of Romans.
6 For not all who are descended from Israel belong to Israel, 7*and not all are children of Abraham because they are his offspring, but “Through Isaac shall your offspring be named.” 8*This means that it is not the children of the flesh who are the children of God, but the children of the promise are counted as offspring.
Of course all of this is based on the book of Genesis, the first book of the Torah.
There seems to be a constant misunderstanding about why God chose the Israelites as 'his own people'. It is not because the Jews are so wonderful that they deserved to be chosen. The Jewish scriptures chronicles how far removed from reality that absurd notion is. That becomes graphically gruesome as you read through the Jewish prophets, and those guys wrote a lot about the Jewish people, most of it not good.
Here is a verse that I think explains what the purpose of God's choosing Israel as his own people was and is:
Isaiah 40:3
A voice cries:[b]
“In the wilderness prepare the way of the Lord;
make straight in the desert a highway for our God.
Of course the success of that plan was never dependent on the faithfullness of Israel, but rather on the faithfulness of God. All of the promises made to the Jews either have or will be fullfilled. But again, the people that are ultimately "chosen," are people of the promise - the people of faith - and not people of the flesh or the body, which base their identity as Jews on bloodlines alone.
Shh, this is an anti-Protestant thread devoid of truth and full of false claims.
In reality I doubt there is any non-Jewish group more pro-Jewish and pro-Israel than American Protestants. And I believe it's always been that way from the tradition of reading and relating to the bible.
Why do evangelicals believe whatever the government wants them too?
Before 1967 the US and Israel did not have the same geopolitical aims.
Before 1967 evangelicals were anti-Semitic and you did not see support for the Israel in the deep south.
The the Government and state department liked how Israel was destroying Arab nationalism and bolstering Islamic radicalism which is around the time evangelicals started preaching support for Israel.
Why are the evangelicals patsies for the government, why do they just happen to support policy that is inline with the USA's geopolitical goals?
... that failed God's original task.
( That's how new teaching of Christianity/New Testament came in place.)
That is not exactly correct. The Jewish law and the temple sacrificial system was always just a temporary precursor to the Messianic age of redemption made possible by the sacrificial atoning death of the Messiah, as the Jewish prophets foretold in the Jewish scriptures. The Jewish system did "fail" in a sense, but to be fair, it was not capable of accomplishing the eternal purposes of God - other than to introduce the Messiah to the world.
Why do evangelicals believe whatever the government wants them too?
Before 1967 the US and Israel did not have the same geopolitical aims.
Before 1967 evangelicals were anti-Semitic and you did not see support for the Israel in the deep south.
The the Government and state department liked how Israel was destroying Arab nationalism and bolstering Islamic radicalism which is around the time evangelicals started preaching support for Israel.
Why are the evangelicals patsies for the government, why do they just happen to support policy that is inline with the USA's geopolitical goals?
Because they don't in particular. Evangelicals were never particularly anti-Semitic and mostly pro-Jewish. I been around those people all my time and seen no evidence of any of them being anti-Semitic and anti-Jewish.
Genesis 12-3 is one reason and Israel is central to Christianity.
On a pragmatic basis, despite their imperfection as a nation, as no nation is perfect, they are the only reliable ally we have in the middle east and the only non Islamic democracy in the middle east. The fact that they have survived as a nation since 1948 is exceptional if not miraculous.
Back to the biblical notion of Israel, when it hits the fan, and it will (read Revelation) possibly in my lifetime, you want to be on Israel's side because it doesn't end well for those who try to destroy Israel.
Those sympathetic to Anti-Semitism, please spare us the usual conspiracy rants about Jews.
Because they don't in particular. Evangelicals were never particularly anti-Semitic and mostly pro-Jewish. I been around those people all my time and seen no evidence of any of them being anti-Semitic and anti-Jewish.
Not being particularly anti-semitic does not absolve them.
Christians have been anti-semitic for hundreds of years based on the death of Jesus.
Jews also promoted usury which Christian people didn't.
Evangelicals did not start supporting Israel state rights or the Jewish people in general until 1967, conveniently when Israel and US geopolitical goals aligned.
All the sudden they moved from ridiculing Jews to targeting Muslims.
What is the point of pretending to believe in something when its just about supporting whatever the government wants.
These "anti-government" people are a joke.
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