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Old 02-11-2023, 01:04 PM
 
Location: az
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Clearly is what this is all about. We live in a consumer economy, young men are not buying sports illustrated to look at girls in swinsuits, before the internet that edition was a big deal, beauty pageants were a big deal, we now have generations of young men desensitized to half naked beautiful women so its not a big driver in terms of profit, it makes sense that since if you don't like yourself your not likely to buy new clothes, consume beauty products, if you normalize the thing that most of consumers already are then they can continue to buy stuff. All these things are markets interacting with other, maximizing profit.

If that were true advertisers would have turned to curvy models a long time ago. The same with using women ordinary in appearances to sell makeup.

I am seeing curvy models used in advertising and realize there’s been a push to market a more authentic look. However, I'm not sure that’s what women want.

And perhaps way the aerobic studio didn't want to use an overweight trainer. If the trainer is overweight... what's the point of exercise. Why am I paying money for her help? I want to look and feel better about myself.

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Old 02-11-2023, 02:11 PM
 
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Clearly is what this is all about. We live in a consumer economy, young men are not buying sports illustrated to look at girls in swinsuits, before the internet that edition was a big deal, beauty pageants were a big deal, we now have generations of young men desensitized to half naked beautiful women
Why would young men look at fat half-naked women when they can easily find slim fully-naked beautiful girls of all origins on the Internet ?
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Old 02-11-2023, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Still talking about this lady? Get a life, y'all. Do I need to post the Venus figurines again?

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So which is it? Lose weight to be healthy(fat shaming), or be an obese slob shuffling around Walmart out of breathe with everything hanging out because you are beautiful no matter what and should flaunt your supersized sexiness?
I can't tell if you're being obtuse on purpose or not. It's pretty obvious that decoupling self-worth with physical appearance can help with weight loss. If shame was the path to skinniness, fat people would not be fat. Alcoholism shares the same issue.
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Old 02-11-2023, 02:35 PM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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Still talking about this lady? Get a life, y'all. Do I need to post the Venus figurines again?

I can't tell if you're being obtuse on purpose or not. It's pretty obvious that decoupling self-worth with physical appearance can help with weight loss. If shame was the path to skinniness, fat people would not be fat. Alcoholism shares the same issue.
She’s such an inspiration and role model for folks

With 42% of the country being obese, it’s easier to promote it as normalcy versus doing what one can to help themselves not be obese, which simply takes effort and discipline.
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Old 02-11-2023, 02:40 PM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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Clearly is what this is all about. We live in a consumer economy, young men are not buying sports illustrated to look at girls in swinsuits, before the internet that edition was a big deal, beauty pageants were a big deal, we now have generations of young men desensitized to half naked beautiful women so its not a big driver in terms of profit, it makes sense that since if you don't like yourself your not likely to buy new clothes, consume beauty products, if you normalize the thing that most of consumers already are then they can continue to buy stuff. All these things are markets interacting with other, maximizing profit.
so, what a publication like Sports Illustrated should be doing - and should have been for 5+ years (since this is 2+ yrs old) - is showing the absolute most fit female athletes in swimsuits as a method to celebrate their health and not their beauty.

So, the NYC supermodels need not apply. Go find the women soccer players, runners, etc etc that are incredibly fit
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Old 02-11-2023, 02:45 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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She’s such an inspiration and role model for folks

With 42% of the country being obese, it’s easier to promote it as normalcy versus doing what one can to help themselves not be obese, which simply takes effort and discipline.
I don't disagree. There are many degrees of fat acceptance, from "be comfortable in your own skin" to "being 350 lbs is actually healthy".
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Old 02-11-2023, 02:48 PM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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I don't disagree. There are many degrees of fat acceptance, from "be comfortable in your own skin" to "being 350 lbs is actually healthy".
Acceptance of being fat doesn’t make it healthy
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Old 02-11-2023, 03:11 PM
 
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So I don't have the info in front of me but public health types like to compare unhealthy bits to cigarette smoking. I read one time that IIRC having a BMI around 40 - and the woman here is in that range - lessens ones life span akin to smoking a pack of cigs. per day. IOW being that fat is incredibly unhealthy over the long haul.

All else equal she'll die early.
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Old 02-11-2023, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Elysium
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so, what a publication like Sports Illustrated should be doing - and should have been for 5+ years (since this is 2+ yrs old) - is showing the absolute most fit female athletes in swimsuits as a method to celebrate their health and not their beauty.

So, the NYC supermodels need not apply. Go find the women soccer players, runners, etc etc that are incredibly fit
A few magazines completing with Sports Illustrated tried that. But by the time they did the swimsuit edition was more than a section and was a stand alone magazine. A fashion magazine which borrowed the sports magazine's name for a week
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Old 02-11-2023, 04:50 PM
 
Location: az
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Well, the transgender from two years ago looks healthy enough.
https://swimsuit.si.com/swimnews/mee...21-leyna-bloom

But why use a trans fashion model?

She beats everyone (gay, straight, trans, etc.) at their own game.

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