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Old 04-09-2021, 10:19 PM
 
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Its classic problem-reaction-solution/order out of chaos❗ Hope those just waking up haven't took the needle... on a side note Prince Phil once said IF he could be reincarnated he'd like to come back as a deadly virus and help depopulate the world.. the elite/globalist/one world gov't/new world order whatever term ya like they are truly insanely evil and bent on their warped dream of a utopia. They've been going on a plan and are at the last stages. You think CoVid19 is bad...stay tuned.
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Old 04-09-2021, 10:28 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Some of us WILL NOT BE "VACCINATED" because we know what its really about!
So for you it's Darwin rules right...Great, so you think the herd needs to be thinned, right?

That's ok with me as the anti-vaxers will be the bulk of the thinning.

I've had my first shot and am looking forward to the second one....
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Old 04-09-2021, 10:33 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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I agree. I pointed out this morning our serious cases are going up. But that doesn't make any sense because the vast major of people who used to make up the serious cases have been vaccinated (65 and up).

Why has Michigan grown to epidemic proportions -- far higher than New York, when it is getting warm.

Fauci says there will be no 4th wave.

Then warns me must take the variants seriously (or what?)

It is getting like the boy who cried wolf. People are going to get the vaccine and then that is all she wrote... they won't put up with it any more.

Then they will really be in trouble as they won't be falling over dead.
It makes perfect sense, as the UK variant (predominant now) attacks younger people, makes them sicker and is more easily spread.
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Old 04-09-2021, 10:34 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Only 20% of people have been vaccinated. I would consider that the remaining 80% who have not is the vast majority.
Nevertheless, a lot of people still want to get vaccinated. For instance, on Thursday, 2000 people in my home town went to get vaccinated with the J & J vaccine:
https://www.stwnewspress.com/covid-1...41f604a09.html
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Old 04-09-2021, 10:35 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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We have been told that it will take about 70% of the public to get vaccinated before we have herd immunity.

I heard that those who refuse to be vaccinated will continue to spread it & we will continue to see different variants & may have to get re-vaccinated at a later time.

That being said, I think ALL politicians use whatever they can if it's to their advantage.
When are you going to learn that a global pandemic is not about politics?

Globally just under three million dead so far.

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Old 04-09-2021, 11:38 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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No country anywhere has the virus under control yet.
The virus is beyond control until there are enough people worldwide who have been vaccinated to cause the herd immunity effect to happen.

Herd immunity doesn't begin until 60% of the population is immune to all forms of the virus. Even then, a breakout is likely until 80% is immune.
Right now, folks who caught the early version of Covid-19 are not immune to some of the new mutations. But so far, the Moderna, J&J, and Pfizer vaccines are all effective, and give a person immunity to the mutant viruses. Some of those mutants are more infectious than the original, others are more deadly, and one, the newest, is both more infectious and more deadly.

Viruses are far older than we are. They have survived because they mutate. Slow the spread slows the mutation. Slowing the mutation reduces new infections. When so many people are vaccinated and totally immune, the virus dies out completely in time.
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Old 04-09-2021, 11:50 PM
 
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Herd immunity doesn't begin until 60% of the population is immune to all forms of the virus. Even then, a breakout is likely until 80% is immune.
It's worth noting that herd immunity doesn't keep breakouts from happening. It just ensures that they die out - eventually.
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Old 04-09-2021, 11:51 PM
 
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So many loons. SOOO soooo sooooooo many.

No theres no insane conspiracy theory here. We have a pandemic, we got some pretty nifty vaccines for it. It really truly is that simple.
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Old 04-10-2021, 12:14 AM
 
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So many loons. SOOO soooo sooooooo many.

No theres no insane conspiracy theory here. We have a pandemic, we got some pretty nifty vaccines for it. It really truly is that simple.
I haven’t read through this thread.
But go look up The Great Reset.
It’s really a matter of once someone sees, they can’t unsee what’s going on.
I’ve been watching the progression for well over 20 years.
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Old 04-10-2021, 12:19 AM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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No country anywhere has the virus under control yet.
The virus is beyond control until there are enough people worldwide who have been vaccinated to cause the herd immunity effect to happen.

Herd immunity doesn't begin until 60% of the population is immune to all forms of the virus. Even then, a breakout is likely until 80% is immune.
Right now, folks who caught the early version of Covid-19 are not immune to some of the new mutations. But so far, the Moderna, J&J, and Pfizer vaccines are all effective, and give a person immunity to the mutant viruses. Some of those mutants are more infectious than the original, others are more deadly, and one, the newest, is both more infectious and more deadly.

Viruses are far older than we are. They have survived because they mutate. Slow the spread slows the mutation. Slowing the mutation reduces new infections. When so many people are vaccinated and totally immune, the virus dies out completely in time.
I have seen no reports that people who have had COVID-19 are being reinfected with new variants. Do you have a source?

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It's worth noting that herd immunity doesn't keep breakouts from happening. It just ensures that they die out - eventually.
True. It just keeps outbreaks smaller.
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