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Old 04-24-2021, 10:17 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Things will be ok somewhere in the world, but my concern in for the USA. We are being led by fools who are fanning the flames of racism, encouraging violence, arson, turning criminals into false idols. It's not ok. Pretending it is doesn't make it so.
Don't worry, the Red States are doing FANTASTIC! No lie!
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Old 04-24-2021, 10:27 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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You choose to see what you want to see, just as you choose to believe what you want to believe. What I see is a nation throwing away democracy and replacing it with some sort of primitive mob rule, where certain people get their way because of self perceive victim hood. That will never work or make the nation strong and prosperous. Trying to force it to work will lead to collapse.


There are literally mobs of people roaming the streets and terrorizing people, and people are pretending this is for some reason ok. This is what a civilization on the verge of collapse looks like. For you to pretend that this is not happening simply proves you are willfully oblivious to the obvious.
Once again, the Red States are doing good and can't relate to what the strange hell you're talking about. People who don't live in Red States and live in cities where mobs of people are roaming the streets and terrorizing people, such as Detroit, are living in sheer, utter misery and should find the will to move the hell out of there.
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Old 04-24-2021, 10:31 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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Once again, the Red States are doing good and can't relate to what the strange hell you're talking about. People who don't live in Red States and live in cities where mobs of people are roaming the streets and terrorizing people, such as Detroit, are living in sheer, utter misery and should find the will to move the hell out of there.

There are no roaming mobs that I have seen in Detroit, though I do not live in the city itself. Detroit already went through that mess, and learned the hard why what that leads to.
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Old 04-24-2021, 10:41 PM
 
Location: Various
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I've been told that he never said that, we just attribute the quote to him. But what do I know. What I do know is that many of the things we've been taught to believe have been demonstrated to be a lie.
You are correct. He never said it.

It is a quote from a Cambridge student, Kenneth John Freeman in 1907.
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Old 04-24-2021, 10:43 PM
 
Location: Various
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I don't see that happening. That's what I'm saying. I see claims of that by extremist more than I actually see it in reality.
"There are none so blind as those who will not see."

Plato.
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Old 04-24-2021, 10:45 PM
 
Location: Berwick, Penna.
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Don't worry, the Red States are doing FANTASTIC! No lie!
As was said about the declining natural gas and rail industies during their doldrums after the Second World War:

"Somewhere, amid all that waste and wreckage, a lean, efficient, and highly-profitable system is struggling to get out."

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Old 04-24-2021, 10:52 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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“The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.”

― Socrates

Every generation has said the generation that comes after it is ruining the world. Things aren't going to hell, you're just getting older.
We heard this same stuff in the '60s and '70s when I was a kid. Back then though, stuff was real serious. Wars, assassinations, REAL violence in the streets. It was great though, everything got flipped on it's head between 1965-1970. All the conservatives in those days for sure thought the world was coming to an end when flat tops went out and all the long hair and beards came in.
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Old 04-24-2021, 11:02 PM
 
Location: Berwick, Penna.
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The quote in the previous post has been mis-attributed to any number of sources, from Seneca to Franklin,

https://quoteinvestigator.com/2010/05/01/misbehave/

but the analysis remains constant.

And personally, I refuse to put most of the blame on our young people; many of them still proudly display their ambition and honesty (though of course, the NEA is "working" hard to destroy that). It's the bozos on barstools and their ditzy spouses addicted to the idiot box and the trash at supermarket checkouts who embarrass my nation more,

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Old 04-24-2021, 11:07 PM
 
Location: Somewhere below Mason/Dixon
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Old Ben's prediction seem truer now than ever:


Benjamin Franklin famously wrote that "when people find they can vote themselves money, that will be the end of the republic".
Sadly I do believe our republic is doomed and our system is in a state of collapse. Our population is becoming a majority socialist one. Some have become accustomed to the government providing for us. The “rona” was an excuse to unashamedly promote dependence and socialism in America. At least half the population is thrilled with the continuing bread and circuses they receive from the government in the form of “stimulus packages”. With free money abundant there is no reason for our youth to want to work. Much of our population is literally like a lazy uncle living on our couch who consumes our resources and contributes nothing. We cannot go on like this.

Also worth noting is the cultural and moral rot. Extreme leftism has corrupted the knowledge many have of our history. White people are demonized and the founders of our country are now considered villains. Our youth are taught division and identity politics at a young age. Many are so ignorant and brainwashed that something as simple as gender is no longer understood by them. All morality and Christianity is condemned and attacked. If one challenges the social worldview of the left they are punished and silenced. Our basic and most cherished right of free speech is now seriously challenged. Everything this country has been is now under scrutiny and attack. Ironically these spoiled entitled kids bash our culture, morals and economic system all while enjoying the fruits of what this country gave them. With each year people become crazier and more uneducated. Yes our republic is doomed. Eventually the right will rise to challenge the destruction of this country but when it happens it may be way to late to change the outcome. In a best case scenario the country will be divided and only part of it will live on in any form we recognize. In a worst case scenario we could see our nation slip into a Cuba or Venezuela type situation where everything is lost. One thing is certain....our population is now too lazy and uneducated to support traditional American representative democracy. Our system always required a certain level of education of our people as a whole. We clearly no longer meet the requirements.
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Old 04-24-2021, 11:40 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Sadly I do believe our republic is doomed and our system is in a state of collapse. Our population is becoming a majority socialist one. Some have become accustomed to the government providing for us. The “rona” was an excuse to unashamedly promote dependence and socialism in America. At least half the population is thrilled with the continuing bread and circuses they receive from the government in the form of “stimulus packages”. With free money abundant there is no reason for our youth to want to work. Much of our population is literally like a lazy uncle living on our couch who consumes our resources and contributes nothing. We cannot go on like this.

Also worth noting is the cultural and moral rot. Extreme leftism has corrupted the knowledge many have of our history. White people are demonized and the founders of our country are now considered villains. Our youth are taught division and identity politics at a young age. Many are so ignorant and brainwashed that something as simple as gender is no longer understood by them. All morality and Christianity is condemned and attacked. If one challenges the social worldview of the left they are punished and silenced. Our basic and most cherished right of free speech is now seriously challenged. Everything this country has been is now under scrutiny and attack. Ironically these spoiled entitled kids bash our culture, morals and economic system all while enjoying the fruits of what this country gave them. With each year people become crazier and more uneducated. Yes our republic is doomed. Eventually the right will rise to challenge the destruction of this country but when it happens it may be way to late to change the outcome. In a best case scenario the country will be divided and only part of it will live on in any form we recognize. In a worst case scenario we could see our nation slip into a Cuba or Venezuela type situation where everything is lost. One thing is certain....our population is now too lazy and uneducated to support traditional American representative democracy. Our system always required a certain level of education of our people as a whole. We clearly no longer meet the requirements.
Don't you really want for the United States of America to hold a constitutional convention, so it can turn into a Christian Right Theocracy? And God will bestow us with so many abundant blessings, that it will be an challenge to take them all in.
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